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Read about WELS Dealing with the Murder of a Pastor's Wife

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Someone wanted documentation about the murdered pastor's wife (WELS). I have a link to the news story. Read it if you want to be sick to your stomach.

Bizarre Story Unfolds in Murder Case, Milwaukee Journal, September 2, 1978.

How is this different from the Roman Catholic bishop, who was praised by the prelates for always protecting the known criminals, keeping them from ever being punished.

The story has Pastor James Schaefer, Mischke's best pal from seminary, editor of the Northwestern Lutheran, Director of Public Relations, doing the same for WELS.

WELS took Tabor in as a pastor - with his parish, knowing he was a serial adulterer. When the police asked for files on Tabor, Schaefer explained to me and Mrs. I during lunch, "The folder was empty!" I found out from being in Cape Girardeau that Tabor fathered a child there, too, and Roger Zehms baptized her (as Roger claimed himself). William Bischoff knew all about the case, and he knows people wrote letters opposing Tabor being taken into WELS. They did, but the folder was empty, as Schaefer admitted  - or bragged.

Destruction of evidence in  a murder case is a felony.

Al Just
When Al Just murdered his wife, WELS organized a busload of idiots to support Just in his hour of need. The daddy of the current First VP of WELS testified for Al Just's good character at the trial. The last time I wrote about Just, who was found guilty, I was warned not to do so. This may be a motive - Just married his children's babysitter once his wife was out of the way.

Joel Hochmuth
SP Mark the Bookkeeper told the synod they had no idea what Hochmuth was doing, but the police record shows they did. Hochmuth had been caught before by his wife, and went into counseling. SP Schroeder would not answer if the WELS agency provided the ineffective counseling.

SOP
In the LCMS, destroying evidence in molestation cases is standard operating procedure. The facts could cost them millions of dollars.

Help Finance the Murder of Millions of Unborn Babies - "Concerned." Dare to Criticize WELS, ELS, or LCMS - Banned for Life.

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The Olde Synodical Conference is waking up, slowly, but still in denial.
How many ads has Thrivent bought for the ELS?
Will the WELS-ELS-ELCA-LCMS combine continue?

http://www.evangelicallutheransynod.org/thrivent-financial-neutrality-policy-concerns/

Thrivent Financial Neutrality Policy Concerns

On February 6, 2014, Thrivent Financial for Lutherans announced a “Financial Neutrality Policy” regarding funding of charitable organizations. Thrivent now categorizes abortion and homosexuality as merely “social issues,” while we continue to regard them as moral/doctrinal issues at odds with the Word of God. We remain "deeply concerned" with these new developments and urge Thrivent members to contact the company with their questions and concerns.

Thrivent, a non-profit fraternal benefit society, has no "official" connection with the Evangelical Lutheran Synod. You may read the new policy here:https://service.thrivent.com/forms/thriventchoice/neutrality.html

#Thrivent

One Professor of Theology

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There is one Professor of Theology we should and must pay close attention to. He is far beyond any other and judges all others. But still, He brings us great comfort, so much that we long to hear even more. He gives us a better witness about the Father and Son than we could ever find from other professors. 

If you admit it, He is the one who first brought you to faith. He is the Holy Spirit at work in the Word of God. He is so good that we never tire of His teaching and long to grow in our understanding of the Gospel of Christ.

Source: fifty years of studying Luther and the Scriptures.

National Anthem - Goosebumps and Wavering Monitor Effect

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Published on Feb 7, 2013
Every night of the All State Choir conference at about 11pm, everyone comes out to the balconies of the 18 story Hyatt hotel to sing the National Anthem :

Louisville, Kentucky

David Virtue Hands It to the Episcopal Church, In Fellowship with ELCA, Which Is in Fellowship with LCMS-WELS

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Episcopal Church Attempts to Reimagine Itself

An open letter to The Episcopal Church's Task Force on reimagining the Church for the 21st Century

By David W. Virtue 
www.virtueonline.org 
February 8, 2014

NEWS BRIEF: In 2012, the General Convention created a taskforce to reimagine The Episcopal Church for the future. The members of the Taskforce want to hear the memories, hopes and dreams that people have for The Church. We are trying to reach as many people as we can over the next few months. We will use what we hear to help us shape recommendations for The Church's structure, administration and governance. 

Dear Task Force Reimaginers

I want to take this moment to thank you for this wonderful opportunity to re-imagine (or is that reinvent) The Episcopal Church for the coming centuries. I would like to offer you my thoughts on this momentous occasion of reimagining, and, hopefully, inspire generations to come with churches that have not been sold to evangelical start-ups, Sharia driven Mullahs, saloon keepers (Mrs. Jeffferts Schori's favorite) or furniture outlets. (A free pew will be offered for every bed sold if Raymour and Flanagan buys a cathedral or two, I am told.) They could start with the closed cathedral in the Diocese of Delaware.

It's been some time since I re-imagined anything really. I am too busy living in the real world of Episcopal saints (very few) and Episcopal sinners (very many) to give a whole lot of thought as to what The Episcopal Church will look like 50 years hence. It's a daunting task so the best I can do is offer you some oh so humble reflections on The Episcopal Church of the Future. You will forgive me if I pour a double scotch and grab the hem of what's-his-name's garment to pray and plead for wisdom.

First of all, I want to admire you for your tremendous insights into suing for properties that you technically never built nor paid for. Due to the Dennis Canon, you have been able to grab a hold of and keep them. No matter that even when you get them, they are pretty well empty so you are forced to sell them off. What makes this so stunningly brilliant is that you had to spend nearly $70 million (it could be more before this "imagining" process idea is over) to recoup properties that you turn around and have to sell.

I can't imagine what $70 million plus would have done to plant new churches, hire evangelists, and get the word out that "Jesus is Inclusive"...come as you are...you don't even need to be baptized...we are a church for everybody. After all, it's not like you are screaming "Jesus Saves." God forbid. That is far too narrow an understanding of Him who stands over the universe and accepts you just the way you are with no questions about change at all.

I am trying to imagine a church where anything goes but nobody shows. I mean, what's wrong with people? Here we are offering up the Church of What's Happening Now, no hindrance to openly practicing gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgenders, queers, Intersexuals (whatever they are) and anyone else who might wander through the red doors. In the meantime, 6800 Episcopal parishes are slowly shriveling and dying. It beats me. Americans are simply not grateful for all the freebies The Episcopal Church is offering.

I mean, look how effectively you have gotten rid of all those horrid evangelicals and Anglo-Catholics, (in truth fundamentalists) in the church, and filled Episcopal pulpits with sodomites and trannies, the most inclusive people on earth but people are still not showing up. What the hell is the matter with people? Clearly, the word is not getting out so my first suggestion is that you consecrate even more gay and lesbian bishops, pay them $150,000 a year plus all the church's benefits, and get them to hit the media trail to get the word out. Clearly, Gene Robinson has not been as successful as he should have been and might need a smack on his bottom for failing. I'm sure you can find someone to administer that and it should be recorded on video for posterity (if you'll pardon the pun.)

A second thing you should do is to simply toss out the 1979 Prayer Book (it is sooooooo passé) and replace it with Bishop Jack Spong's 12 Theses. He is so with it that young people will eat it up, if they can only recite those theses each Sunday. What a gift to the church. I am sure Beyonce could bounce her bottom to some lyrics and I am doubly sure that top rapper and hip hop music artists like Boyz N Da Hood could really go to town on those Theses. Just give them a chance. It may require a little more "imagining" than you thought, but it is clear you are desperate. Desperate times demand desperate measures.

Then you need to take Charles Bennison, the former Bishop of Pennsylvania's brilliant suggestion, that men wrote the Bible, therefore they can rewrite it. I am surprised this has not been picked up by the powers that be, especially as they seem to be doing a pretty good job reimagining most of the texts in the Bible on sexuality to make them fit the times we live in.

The Episcopal Church could invoke the memory of that well known and much beloved President Thomas Jefferson who cut out all the bits in the New Testament about transcendence and the miracles of Jesus to make it more palatable to Americans.

My final suggestion is that you sell the church's national headquarters in New York City for $60 million and give all the money to the poor as the final act of "reimagining." I can't think of a more generous act by the Church culminating in all the years the church has pled and bled for the poor and fought against unknown racists and homophobes. For such an act of generosity I believe it only appropriate that the Presiding Bishop be awarded an honorary doctorate from the prestigious Oxford University.

My prayers are with you.

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The Transfiguration. Matthew 17:1-9. 2014

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Transfiguration Sunday, 2014

Pastor Gregory L. Jackson

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bethany-lutheran-worship

Bethany Lutheran Worship, 10 AM Central Time 

The Hymn #495               From Greenland’s Icy Mountains            3:23
The Confession of Sins
The Absolution
The Introit p. 16
The Gloria Patri
The Kyrie p. 17
The Gloria in Excelsis
The Salutation and Collect p. 19
The Epistle and Gradual             2 Peter 1:16-21
The Gospel           Matthew 17:1-9
Glory be to Thee, O Lord!
Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
The Nicene Creed p. 22
The Sermon Hymn #135            Tis Good              3:81

Transfigured – God In the Flesh

The Hymn #307   Draw Nigh                3:72
The Preface p. 24
The Sanctus p. 26
The Lord's Prayer p. 27
The Words of Institution
The Agnus Dei p. 28
The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
The Benediction p. 31
The Hymn #283   God’s Word                           3:90

KJV 2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

KJV Matthew 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

Sixth Sunday After Epiphany

O merciful and everlasting God, heavenly Father: We thank Thee that Thou hast revealed unto us the glory of Thy Son, and let the light of Thy gospel shine upon us: We pray Thee, guide us by this light that we may walk diligently as Christians in all good works, ever be strengthened by Thy grace, and conduct our lives in all godliness; through the same, Thy beloved Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with Thee and the Holy Ghost, one true God, world without end. Amen.

God in the Flesh

KJV Matthew 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

Jesus did not always reveal His divinity. This has fueled two kinds of heretics. In ancient times, some refused to accept His human nature, so they dismissed anything relating to this. One response was to make Mary supernatural, living her entire life without actual sin, because a perfect Savior could not be born of someone who was 100% human.

Others denied that He suffered on the cross, and so forth. All these things came from teaching only one Nature - the divine nature. Since this is not faithful to the Scriptures, it promotes many additional errors.

Today the rationalists jump on the many examples where the human nature of Christ is emphasized, or where the disciples only related to His human nature, not comprehending His divinity. Like the other error, this completely distorts the atoning death of Christ.

I could go on about how the philosophers mangle this even more. Paul Tillich is one example, and he was only repeating in the 20th century what the 19th century rationalists said. Almost all modern Christian theology today belongs to this camp, and that includes the superstars of Roman Catholicism - men like Rahner. Such "teachers" easily spot those who disagree and despise them as believers. This is the great era of Faith Without Belief, the Age of Apostasy predicted by the pastoral epistles.

The Text
The text was written by the Holy Spirit, through human hands, giving us the precise message of God about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - with special emphasis upon the Father and Son.

Therefore, it does not matter what various experts have claimed, since the one and only true Professor of Theology is the Holy Spirit, who has published only one book, a best-seller called the Bible. This book judges all books and is judged by none. More importantly, this Book does not merely informs us. The Word plants faith in our hearts, sustains that faith, and moves us to good works in thanksgiving for that justification, forgiveness, we receive through faith in Jesus Christ.

Jesus took His disciples to a special place and event so they would see, as clearly as possible at that time, that He was the eternal Son of God.

This narrative summarizes the public ministry of Christ in one sense. The disciples believed, yet they were always growing in understanding and faith. They enjoyed the fellowship of being with Jesus and yet they did not constantly see His miraculous divine nature. Sometimes faith came in second to doubts, and there had to be correction and new understanding.

We have the same experience. From time to time we are reminded of God working miracles in our lives. We have no doubts about that. But then over a period of time we are less aware, although the miracles continue, and we are more easily shaken by bad news and difficult times.

2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 

This word is very important, because Jesus was completely changed before them.

Even the scientists who deny Creation use that term from the Greek text - metamorphosis



A monarch butterfly begins its life as a humble caterpillar. There is no visual connection or even a functional connection, between the early stage and the last stage. The caterpillars are found on milkweed plants and easily kept inside during the final stages.

The golden nails are just plain showing off, in my opinion.
Butterfly ready to emerge.


The caterpillars get fatter on the leaves inside, then hang themselves on a twig and create a jade coffin with golden nails. Most people would say, "If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes..." The jade coffin later turns translucent and the coloring of the monarch shows through. What emerges is nothing like that weed-eating worm before. It flies away to reproduce.

Jesus was completely changed in appearance. Human language is impoverished to describe what the disciples saw.

3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

Moses and Elijah were figures of the Scriptures (no "Old" Testament then, only the Scriptures). They also represented eternal life to believing Jews. That Jesus appeared with them meant He belonged to a different realm, as the apostles taught. He came down from above, was born of the Virgin, and lived among us full of grace and truth.

Impulsive Peter always had something to say, and it was often the wrong thing, but he said it. Notice the Epistle is from Peter and recounts this episode in majestic language. Peter is the prime example of someone's weaknesses being on full display, yet grace being triumphant in his repentance and forgiveness.

5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.

This is the second time that a voice from heaven spoke. The first time was at the baptism of Jesus, and people heard a sound like thunder. The disciples heard a clear declaration, "This is My beloved Son. Listen to Him."

This is a clear affirmation of the role Jesus would have as the Savior, dying on the cross (human nature) without sin (divine nature) to pay for the sins of the world. The message of the Gospel would be, "Jesus died on the cross for your sins. The price has been paid. Believe in the Savior and receive this forgiveness."

This is so powerful, as I have mentioned many times before, that prisoners wept and confessed their sinful nature. All I did was recount in a quiet voice what the Word says about all of us being sinful and having Jesus as our Savior. In one case, it changed a young man's life. He gave up drugs, went back to his former pals to tell them to repent, and left to go back home to start a new life.

7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.

These disciples got to see the risen Lord in advance, in all His glory. This was part of God's plan, to build up the disciples so they could endure the crucifixion and still remain believers, shaken and afraid, but still united around Jesus' leadership. That was enough to keep them together until they saw Him, heard Him teach them again, and saw Him ascend into heaven.

The value of the historic lessons is in building us up so that we know one set of Scriptures increasingly well. There is always something new to learn. Whatever we face, it is with the knowledge of the Transfiguration, the empty grace, and the Ascension.

Modern clergy do not know or confess the divine nature of Jesus. So they do not believe in the empty grave or the Ascension. Therefore, the crucifixion has no meaning for them. As a result, they teach social agitation and Left-wing fads, until they find a new fad to dwell upon. The entertainment clowns are no different. They rejoice in the crowds they get by feeding them popcorn and soda, but they have no message. Notice that the big crowd Evangelicals are all joining the gay agenda bandwagon, one after another. Andy Stanley, trainer of WELS clergy, came out first. Others are following his standard.

The Gospel itself is always irrelevant for those who love wolf-preaching, just as it is dangerous to the wolves. But when there is nothing else to cling to, the Gospel is the only message, the only truth.

God blesses believers with a Transfiguration in their own lives. They see the risen Savior long before the full revelation is theirs in eternal life. Like Stephen the Martyr, they see Him from afar and trust in Him alone.

The ACLC - The Rolf Preus Synod - Opposes Justification by Faith

WELS and Ukraine - $15 Million Plus for 900 Members?

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At its Jan. 12-13 meeting, the WELS Board for World Missions (BWM) agreed to assume oversight of the Ukrainian Lutheran Church (ULC), a 900-member church body started in the 1990s.
The Evangelical Lutheran Synod (ELS) had been the primary mission partner of this Ukrainian church body, but by mutual agreement between the three church bodies, WELS through its Board for World Missions will now assume that role. The ELS will continue to maintain its Gift of Life program, which provides humanitarian aid and pro-life counseling in Ukraine.
Gifts from foundations, grants, and individuals will provide the dollars to help support the work of this church, with minimal funding needed from Congregation Mission Offerings. WELS will not send any permanent missionaries to Ukraine but will provide training, workshops, and counsel to the ULC in areas such as stewardship, leadership, and discipleship. Rev. Larry Schlomer, BWM administrator, says the goal—as it is with all world missions fields—is to help the Ukraine become self-supporting and self-administrating and able to stand on its own.
“By bringing them under the BWM, we’re able to use the expertise and experience that we’ve gained in working with many churches through the growing pangs of becoming their own independent church body,” says Schlomer.
Besides being able to financially support its ministry, Rev. Dr. Vyacheslav Horpynchuk, bishop of the ULC, says this also means the church has to grow in its ministry practices, including outreach, laypeople involvement, and continued education of its pastors. “This is what we need to do, and this is why we are so thankful to the WELS that they came and helped us—providing not only financial help but also providing guidance and wisdom,” says Horpynchuk. “This is what we need.”
Horpynchuk is grateful for the support and this new relationship, especially at this time of political unrest and violence in Ukraine. The ULC’s headquarters are in Kiev where much of the protests are taking place, and Horpynchuk says attendance has been low in the downtown congregation he serves because people are afraid. “It moves us to pray more and to be more dedicated to the Lord,” he says. “People in the church are becoming more compassionate and more caring of each other.”
He continues, “Sometimes you feel isolated. You feel threatened. Brotherly care and encouragement is extremely important. We know that the Lord never fails. We know that the Lord never leaves us alone. We know that his people never leave their brothers and sisters. And this is what we see now is taking place with WELS, and we are thankful to the Lord for your love and your care.”
The Ukrainian Lutheran Church consists of 907 baptized members in 22 congregations served by 21 pastors and two vicars. It is part of the Confessional Evangelical Lutheran Conference, a group of 24 member churches (including WELS) that provides a forum for confessional Lutherans around the world.
Learn more at www.wels.net/missions.

Sad - An Odd Parallel to the LCMS Seminary Fraud

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How is this different from the LCMS lying for years that they had a shortage of 600 pastors from the Seminex crisis?

The LCMS gets young and old men to spend $100,000 for a degree that does not necessarily lead to a call. If the man actually gets a call, there is a good chance he will be ousted by the District Pope. There is a good chance he will even be kicked out after his vicarage year, with no chance to finish or return. It is just like the phony college head running away with the money. "So long, sucker."

All Lutheran seminaries are completely on their own. The Synodical Baby Boomers spend "mission dollars" on their own fat salaries and let the seminary students bankroll the underworked and overpaid seminary professors through student loans.

ELCA knows the writing is on the wall - they are closing seminaries right and left.

When I published the precisely researched figures on the LCMS seminary scams, DP Benke asked on the ALPB Online Forum, "Are those figures real?"

The hero of the Leftist Church Missouri Synod has no clue about seminary costs today.


They Allowed One Guy To Stay Around - For Now

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Four-way dialogue deepens

(L to R, from back): Archbishop Fred Hiltz, US Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, ELCA Bishop Elizabeth Seaton and ELCIC Bishop Susan Johnson. Photo: Bruce Myers/Anglican Church of Canada
(L to R, from back): Archbishop Fred Hiltz, US Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, ELCA Bishop Elizabeth Eaton and ELCIC Bishop Susan Johnson. Photo: Bruce Myers/Anglican Church of Canada
[Anglican Journal] The heads of the Anglican Church of Canada, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada (ELCIC), the Episcopal Church and the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) have agreed to co-ordinate their responses to “events that transcend” their borders, such as natural disasters.
They could, for instance, issue a joint pastoral letter in response to a natural calamity and invite their members to contribute to relief and recovery efforts through one of their four relief agencies, said Archdeacon Bruce Myers, the Anglican Church of Canada General Synod’s coordinator for ecumenical and interfaith relations. Myers served as staff support at the meeting.
Leaders of the four churches reached this agreement when they met for a day and a half of informal talks last December in Winnipeg. Since 2010, the heads of these four churches have met for informal talks, “becoming colloquially known as the ‘Four-Way,’ ” said Myers.
The Anglican Church of Canada’s primate, Archbishop Fred Hiltz, ELCIC Bishop Susan Johnson and Episcopal Church Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori were joined in the meeting by the new presiding bishop of the ELCA, Elizabeth Eaton.
“Broadly speaking, these informal conversations are aimed at exploring ways to extend the implications of our Anglican-Lutheran full communion partnerships across the international boundary,” said Myers. “What more could we be doing as North American churches in full communion?” The Anglican Church of Canada and the ELCIC have been in full communion since 2011, as have the ELCA and the Episcopal Church.
The leaders also agreed to explore ways of addressing the Doctrine of Discovery
“as a step towards reconciliation with indigenous people in North America,” said Myers. The Anglican Church of Canada and the Episcopal Church have both repudiated the Doctrine of Discovery.
The Anglican church, however, “has only begun to try to give tangible expression to that renunciation,” said Myers. When it renounced the Doctrine of Discovery at the 2010 General Synod, the church pledged a review of its policies and programs to expose the doctrine’s historical impact and end its continuing effects on indigenous peoples. The Doctrine of Discovery was a principle of charters and acts developed by colonizing Western societies more than 500 years ago.
[The Episcopal Church renounced the doctrine at its 2009 meeting of General Convention.]
At the meeting, Hiltz also informed the other bishops about his church’s recent decision to designate the seventh Sunday of Easter as Jerusalem Sunday. In response, the other three churches “pledged to explore the possibility of making it a common observance,” said Myers.
Each leader also agreed to prepare a devotional piece for different Sundays in Advent, to be made available for individual or congregational use in their churches during the 2014 Advent season.
They also agreed to look at what they might be able to say collectively in response to an ecumenical convergence text on ecclesiology called The Church: Towards a Common Vision. The document was issued March 2013 by the Faith and Order Commission of the World Council of Churches (WCC). Described by Myers as “groundbreaking,” the text addresses what churches might say together in areas such as peace and justice in the world, and how they might grow in communion and overcome past and present divisions. Theologians “from the widest range of Christian traditions and cultures” produced the text for the WCC.

Fresh Flatulence from the SpenerQuest Skunk-Patch. Rolf Commends Their Apostasy and Obstinancy

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A lengthy September 24 - December14 LQ thread, "ELDoNA Rejects Objective Justification," discussed ELDoNA's Theses on Justification, which rejects Objective Justification.

The Association of Confessional Lutheran Churches has posted on its website its February 9, 2014, 50-page report, "Critique of the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America’s Theses on Justification." Here's the Abstract:

The critique points out logical fallacies thesis by thesis. In general, the conclusions of the theses are built on three fallacies: Straw Man, Equivocation, and Exclusion. The critique is thorough, but not exhaustive due to the quantity of error and volume of material.
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This confessional document published by the ACLC takes the bold step of declaring fellowship sundered with the heterodox ELDoNA. Of course, it was ELDoNA itself which sundered fellowship with all orthodox Lutheran fellowships by declaring that its Justification theses delimited its doctrinal fellowship. I thank Rick Strickert for posting a link to this fine critique.

We need to earnestly contend for the faith once delivered to the saints against the gainsayers (deniers).
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I wish the ELDoNA quotes were better formatted. Other than that, so far, a good defense.

The Rev. Guillaume J. S. Williams, Sr
God justifies the ungodly. Rom 4:5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, 
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The pastors of the ACLC have made a good confession. I commend them for their patience and theological integrity. While it appears that the ELDoNA, at the moment anyway, is not listening, the ACLC is doing a service to the church by publicly addressing this vital issue in accordance with the Scriptures and the Lutheran Confessions. I thank God for the faithful witness of these men!
Pastor Rolf David Preus
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GJ - Williams reads an entire chapter on justification by faith - Romans 4 - and finds UOJ.

Hey - how did Rolf sneak back into the Missouri Synod again? How many synods is that for him now?

Remember When the Church of England Still Had Some Dignity and Integrity?

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Oxford University Confers Honorary Doctorate on Episcopal Presiding Bishop

By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
February 10, 2014

An Oxford Don and Anglican sociologist described the announcement as "disastrous and derisory...I'm ashamed of my alma mater." Episcopal liberals and progressives rejoiced in the announcement while one blogger described it as Scandalum magnum.

Across the Atlantic, Archbishop Justin Welby welcomed news that the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori, is to be awarded an honorary Doctor of Divinity by the University of Oxford. He commented, "I am delighted by the news that the Most Rev. Dr. Katharine Jefferts Schori is to receive an honorary Doctor of Divinity from the University of Oxford. This award, richly deserved, reaffirms Bishop Katharine's remarkable gifts of intellect and compassion, which she has dedicated to the service of Christ."

Conservative bloggers were so shocked by the announcement that there was immediate disbelief that Welby had either not written the announcement or had simply bought into a press release from 815, the Episcopal Church's national headquarters in New York City.

However, a spokesman from Lambeth Palace wrote VOL confirming that, "the press release was issued with the full knowledge and endorsement of the Archbishop."

While his endorsement of this award has sent shockwaves around the Anglican Communion, it should be noted that the Archbishop of Canterbury has said nothing about her [lack of] spiritual gifts and theological utterances that puts her at odds with 90% of the Anglican Communion.

Over the course of her tenure, the Presiding Bishop has received a total of nine honorary doctorates all from liberal Episcopal seminaries. She has not received such accolades from Nashotah House or Trinity School for Ministry. The secular academy, it seems, has taken no notice of her.

The surprise announcement Thursday (Feb. 6) left many in the Anglican world, other than the Archbishop of Canterbury, scratching their heads in wonderment and disbelief, considering the American Presiding Bishop's well known and thoroughly documented trail of unChristian and anti-Christian actions and theological stances boarding on heresy and apostasy.

Consider the following:

In Katharine Jefferts Schori's version of reality, Jesus Christ is not necessarily male nor is He "the Way, the Truth, and the Life." She thus repudiates Christ's claim in John 14:6 that "no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me."

Just days after the 2006 General Convention, where she stated: "Mother Jesus gives birth to a new creation -- and you and I are his children," TIME magazine asked the XXVI Presiding Bishop-elect a pointed question: "Is belief in Jesus the only way to get to heaven?" She answered: "We who practice the Christian tradition understand him as our vehicle to the divine. But for us to assume that God could not act in other ways is, I think, to put God in an awfully small box."

Then on July 7, 2009 at the Opening Eucharist for the 2009 General Convention, she declaimed "the great Western heresy" in Anaheim, California where she questioned if "We can be saved as individuals, [or] that any of us alone can be in right relationship with God." 

The Presiding Bishop has made worldwide headlines with some of her unique theological pronouncements. 

Jeff Walton, Anglican program director at the Institute on Religion & Democracy, says that the Presiding Bishop "has a long record of first establishing theopolitical positions and then conforming Scripture to align with her predetermined purpose."

This was clearly visible last May. While making a pastoral visit to Curacao, Venezuela, the Presiding Bishop denounced the Apostle Paul for his actions in Acts 16:16-34 where he exercised the spirit of divination from a slave girl. The American primate claimed that St. Paul was "depriving her of her gift of spiritual awareness.

"Paul can't abide something he won't see as beautiful or holy, so he tries to destroy it," Jefferts Schori told her Venezuelan congregation. "It gets him thrown in prison. That's pretty much where he's put himself by his own refusal to recognize that she, too, shares in God's nature, just as much as he does - maybe more so."

Mere Comments, a blog by the Fellowship of St. James, dedicated to the promotion of fidelity to Jesus Christ, encourages greater Christian unity, and defends traditional Christian doctrines and moral teachings, says that Katharine Jefferts Schori's sermons are remarkable for what is not said, "Bishop Schori's sermons make little mention of the cross, or of Jesus' death, or of His rising again."

To prove that point, she said in her 2012 Easter message, "We talk about greenness and new life and life springing forth from the earth when we talk about resurrection." The name of Jesus never crossed her lips. She is uncomfortable with belief in the bodily resurrection of Jesus, preferring to see it as a spiritual rising.

As a trained oceanographer, the Presiding Bishop couches much of her orations in scientific terms and creation references. 

"Both science and religion lead people to see the world with enormous awe. The response can either be a burning desire to understand the workings of the physical world, or an equally burning desire to connect with whatever has brought this world in existence," Jefferts Schori told a Corvallis (Ore.) Gazette-Times reporter in 2007. "Both kinds of passion can help us to care for this world and all its inhabitants and both are going to be needed if we are going to relieve the suffering of many and bring increasing hope to our own species and all others."

For those who have listened to her, the former oceanographer turned presiding bishop is more interested in protecting the environment than in proclaiming the Gospel.

Theologically, a Doctor of Divinity (DD) degree is usually conferred because the conferee is an outstanding religious scholar of distinction. In the UK, the Doctor of Divinity (DD) has traditionally been considered a "higher doctorate" thus the highest earned religious studies doctorate, even above a theological Ph.D., granted by a university such as Oxford. In the United States, a DD is traditionally an honorary degree granted by a church-related college, seminary, or university to recognize the recipient's ministry-orientated accomplishments.

As a trained oceanographer, Jefferts Schori earned a Ph.D. in Oceanography from Oregon State University (Corvallis, Ore.). As an Episcopal clergywoman, she earned Master of Divinity from the Church Divinity School of the Pacific, the same Episcopal seminary that awarded her first honorific Divinitatis Doctor.

Since Jefferts Schori does not have a qualifying body of theological works nor is she a religious scholar of standing and distinction, the conferring of the Oxford scarlet and black academic robes comes as a result of "...her enduring deep commitment to the environment [which] has evolved into a profound dedication to stewardship of our planet and humankind, especially in relieving poverty and extending the love and hospitality of Christ to those on the edges of society ..." explains the Archbishop of Canterbury.

The English archbishop is a strong proponent of women in the episcopate and is lobbying to see women break through the stained glass ceiling and become bishops in the Church of England, and even, perhaps, one day the Archbishop of Canterbury. Therefore he lauds his American counterpart as a shining example of "a powerful model for women seeking to pursue their vocations in the church." 

Katharine Jefferts Schori was a weak Bishop of Nevada. Her weakness was highlighted in 2004 when she allowed a self-professed Roman Catholic pedophile monk-priest, -- Bede Parry -- who was dismissed from his Catholic Benedictine abbey for sexual misbehavior with young men, to convert to The Episcopal Church. She received him, recognized the sacramental validity of his Catholic priesthood, and gave him sacerdotal faculties that allowed him to minister in a Las Vegas church that has an attached school. 

Even when the sordid story broke during the summer of 2011, and the priest (who has since died) resigned his position, Jefferts Schori remained mum while the media clamored for answers and explanations. 

In singing Katharine Jefferts Schori's praises, the Archbishop of Canterbury said, "This award, richly deserved, reaffirms Bishop Katharine's remarkable gifts of intellect and compassion, which she has dedicated to the service of Christ." 

The charge that she has an "authentic Christ-centered Christian "compassion" is unknown to the Presiding Bishop. Under her tenure, she has revamped Title IV and amassed enormous centralized power. Her clergy quake in fear. More than 700 deacons, priests and bishops have been defrocked by her hands with a stroke of the pen. One case in point involved retired Bishop Edward MacBurney (VII Quincy) who on April 2, 2008 was inhibited by the Presiding Bishop; on April 4, his son died, leaving the grieving father and bishop unable to conduct his son's funeral rites. 



The Presiding Bishop, too, is the powerful force behind the legal scenes, which have seen more than $30 million funneled into litigation as departing Episcopal congregations, vestries, and clergy -- including bishops -- fight for their long-held church edifices and real estate. She would much rather see an Episcopal church building fall into the hands of Moslems for non-Christian worship or become a museum, or a private home or even a bistro than be compassionately placed into the hands of devoted North American Anglicans. 

Inherently, the Oxford's famed Encaenia (yearly academic awards celebration) takes place on the Wednesday of the ninth week of Trinity Term or the third term of the academic year. So on June 25, 2014, the Presiding Bishop will be one of six leading figures from Britain, the United States and France to travel to Oxford's Sheldonian Theatre to receive honors in their chosen fields of endeavor -- science, the arts or religion. In addition to being the youngest so honored in this term, the American clergywoman is to be presented with an honorary Degree of Doctor of Divinity. Other honorees include British sculptor Sir Anish Kapoor and American magazine editor Robert Silvers who are slated to receive honorary Degrees of Doctor of Letters; while honorary Degrees of Doctor of Science are to go to Professor Wallace Broecker of Columbia University and French chemist Jean-Marie Lehn, an earlier recipient of the Nobel Prize for Chemistry; finally the honorary Degree of Doctor of Music is to go to Sir Harrison Birtwistle, a visiting professor at the Royal Academy of Music.

Nothing has been mentioned of Jefferts Schori's failure to proclaim the Christian Gospel and to adhere to Scriptural standards, biblical truth and the ancient apostolic faith. Nothing, because in truth she doesn't believe it. Oxford University should have known better.

VOL correspondent Mary Ann Mueller contributed to the story

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Navigation - Rolf Synod Rejection of Justification by Faith - Attacks ELDONA

Rolf Synod's Nasty Little Introduction

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The Rolf Synod began when Pope John the Malefactor began kicking pastors out of the Little Sect on the Prairie. Moldstad told Rolf's congregation they would be kicked out of the ELS if they did not fire Rolf, so they did.

This group calls themselves the ACLC, whatever that means, but they soon parted company with Rolf - who left the LCMS for the ELS, got kicked out of the ELS, formed the Rolf Synod, got pushed out there, and came crawling back to the LCMS, rejected at first but finally (and reluctantly) accepted. Nevertheless, Rolf publicly supports his former sect.

Those who teach a universal forgiveness and absolution - without faith - cannot get along with each other. Thus Rolf's synod broke with him. Paul McCain turned against his back channel pal Herman Otten, even though both adore UOJ and sneak in Romanism however they can.

The SkunkPatch called LutherQuest (sic) is famous for their Max und Morris behavior with their "friends," but they are united by UOJ.

WELS and the Little Sect on the Prairie despise one another, but they teach nothing except UOJ. The only thing they like about the LCMS (besides money) is UOJ.

I could tell this would be a weak piece of whining when the Rolf Synod began their report by complaining they were robbed by ELDONA.

The ELDoNA scheduled Rev. Rydecki as sole presenter on the topic of Justification at their 2013 Colloquium. Unfortunately, following his presentation of “The Forensic Appeal to the Throne of Grace” only about 15 minutes of the scheduled time remained for discussion. At the beginning of Rev. Rydecki’s colloquy interview, the bishop of the ELDoNA, the Rt. Rev. James Heiser, stated that no questions on Objective Justification would be entertained. At the conclusion of the interview, Bishop Heiser informed Rev. Rydecki that the ELDoNA found no error in his theology at all, but nevertheless his application would be put on hold until the ELDoNA had adopted her theses on Justification. This, he said, was in order to be fair to Rev.
Rydecki so that he would know for certain the ELDoNA’s position on this doctrine before entering the diocese. Acta Apostolorum, Rolfus Synodum.

I have no connection with any of this, but I can guess why Heiser did not let the Rolf Synod or anyone else get on the topic of UOJ. I have experienced their madness whenever they latch onto the topic. They brush aside Luther's doctrine, Paul's epistles, the Bible itself, and the Book of Concord - to obsess about their one and only term, which did not appear until recently, coming from Calvinistic and Pietistic sources.

As one of their mindless leaders, F. Bivens, wrote - in harmony with all of them - UOJ is the Chief Article of the Christian Faith, the master and prince, etc - directly contradicting the Reformation.

Unbelief rages against faith, which explains why UOJ finds complete unity among all its allies (including ELCA) and opposes justification by faith with demonic wrath.




This Mission Satire Is Too Close to Home for WELS and Missouri. Fox Valley Has Most of the Nimrod Strategy in Place

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Rolf Synod Argues the Way Bill Nye Does - Making It Personal

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The atheist Nye used the weakest form of argument at his recent debate, assuming he was only talking to evolutionists. Although he should have been aware of a vast amount of Creation arguments, he kept referring to Creation as "Ham's Creation" and "Ham's concept."

This is a personal attack - plus guilt by association. I read it all the time at the skunk patch called LutherQuest (sic). The snide tone conveys the thought that the subject matter in not worthy of consideration. Associating it with one person says, "Anyone who believes in Creation is a foolish follower of Ham."

Before Megatron met its untimely death (when Tom-Tom software destroyed it), I had a list of Creation statements from well known scientists of the past.

The Rolf Synod did the same thing, constantly referring to "Rydecki's justification." In fact, they begin with Paul Rydecki being received into ELDONA and giving a paper on justification by faith. Told in hushed tones of outrage normally reserved for the Protest'ants, the history of Christian doctrine is brushed aside in favor Walther's hand-picked parrot, F. Pieper. Fuerbringer specified that Walther changed the rules to get Pieper the job.

For Walther, the divine call was "whatever CFW demands as the Missouri pope."

First, A Matter of Definition: 
“Objective Justification” has been variously presented 
• as merely a synonym for unlimited atonement, 
• as properly referring to justification as the object of faith, 
• and as the ‘proper’ understanding of the teaching.3

This last view states that it is a fact4 that Mankind has been not only atoned for by Christ, but actually declared free from sin by God prior to faith. In the resurrection, it is said, God actually absolved the world.5
Acta Apostolorum, Rolfus Synodum.

The footnotes refer to Pieper, F. Bivens!, and Sig Becker. Thus the only possible definition comes from that self-perpetuating fanaticism known as UOJ.

Since the Rolf Synod considers UOJ canonical, any variation from their Enthusiasm must be rejected as the demonic negation of their true Gospel.

Every so often I try out the UOJ dogma on Evangelicals, who invariably say, "They are Universalists." In fairness, I say, "Not quite, according to them. If someone believes in their world absolution without faith, that persona is saved. But everyone is forgiven, absolved, and guilt-free whether they believe or not."

That only brings puzzled looks. My English students were not fooled by the New NIV, Romans 3. When I showed them the extra "all" - all are justified (contrary to the actual text), they said, "No, it still says justified by faith."

But the dimwits at Mequon promoting the NNIV race past that fact and yell, "See that - all are justified. It is in the Bible. All are justified."


Theses - Justification by Faith - ELDONA

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When will the other Lutheran groups
return to justification by faith?


Theses on the Article of Justification: and The Forensic Appeal to the Throne of Grace in the Theology of the Lutheran Age of Orthodoxy Paperback – February 15, 2014


http://www.amazon.com/dp/1891469541/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk

This book contains the "Theses on the Article of Justification as Taught in Holy Scripture and the Confessions of Christ’s Holy Church with Special Attention to “Objective Justification" which were discussed during the 2013 Colloquium and Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America (ELDoNA) and which were later approved in the following form by the pastors of the diocese. As noted in the conclusion of the "Theses," this document was created for use within the diocese (thus it is clearly stated, in the conclusion: 

"Those inside our fellowship voluntarily agree with these theses and support them, but we also wish to have these theses function as a marker of agreement between Christians who are not yet necessarily in fellowship. Therefore, we invite all who agree with these theses to express their agreement without necessarily committing themselves to fellowship."). The diocese does not require other Lutheran synods to subscribe to the theses as a step necessary for retaining or establishing fellowship, nor is subscription to the theses sufficient for establishing fellowship. 

Fellowship is recognized only on the basis of agreement in the doctrine taught by Holy Scripture and rightly confessed in the Book of Concord of 1580. However, because some individuals outside of the diocese have objected to the clear statement of Lutheran teaching set forth in these theses, it was deemed best to publish the theses to make them available for others to read and assess for themselves the doctrine of the ELDoNA in light of God's Word and the Lutheran Confessions. 

As the "Theses on the Article of Justification" make reference to Pastor Paul Rydecki's 2013 paper, "The Forensic Appeal to the Throne of Grace in the Theology of the Lutheran Age of Orthodoxy: A Reflection on Atonement and Its Relationship to Justification," that paper is published by permission of it's author in conjunction with the theses as a supplemental resource for understanding the doctrine of Justification.

Before Steadfast Lutherans (!) Erase the Thread, As They Did for Darwin Schauer - Pastor Paul Rydecki Defends Justification by Faith Against Jay Webber's Rationalistic Halle Pietistism

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My great-uncle Fritz is amused by people promising grace without the Means of Grace,
justification without faith.


http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=35105

A Statement on Justification from the ACLC

February 14th, 2014Post by 
A while back, the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America adopted a statement on the doctrine of justification that decisively rejected the teaching of objective/subjective justification – which had been an earmark of the “Synodical Conference” tradition of Lutheranism. The pastors of the Association of Confessional Lutheran Congregations, which up until now has been in fellowship with the ELDoNA, have now prepared a formal theological response to the ELDoNA document, which is available on the ACLC website. I am not a member of, or a spokesperson for, the ACLC, so I would not expect to be discussing their document very much in this forum. But since their document does address a subject that I have discussed on this blog in the past (here and here), and since those previous posting garnered quite a bit of discussion among the readers of this blog, I thought that it would be of interest to those readers also to made aware of these developments, and of the ACLC document.

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  1. February 14th, 2014 at 13:09 | #1
    Wouldn’t a complete rejection of justification as taught by Scripture make the ELDNA guilty of preaching “another gospel” as St. Paul called it, thus essentially disqualifying them as being Christian?
  2. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 14th, 2014 at 16:00 | #2
    Actually, what the reader of the ACLC statement will find is very little theology and very (very) many vain accusations of “logical fallacy,” and even the bizarre accusation of the ELDoNA having separated from Article IV of the Augsburg Confession. Fear not. Far from “completely rejecting justification as taught by Scripture,” the ELDoNA completely embraces justification as taught by Scripture and as confessed in the Augsburg Confession and throughout the Book of Concord. As for the completely false and unfounded accusation made in the above comment, I don’t think it’s helpful for a self-proclaimed “closet Calvinist” to be casting such aspersions on the ELDoNA’s confession of the Gospel. But if anyone wishes to discuss the actual content of the ELDoNA’s Theses on Justification in the light of Scripture and the Confessions, that could be productive.
  3. February 14th, 2014 at 18:03 | #3
    I am so sick of this whole thing. Just like J. Dean above claims that ELDoNA is “not Christian”, so there is an anti-OJ guy named Brett Meyer going around the blogosphere claiming in comments that LCMS and WELS are “apostate”, “not Christian”, and “deny sola fide.
    If falling on either side of this inter-Lutheran debate made someone “apostate,” than all of Christendom would be apostate except for a certain number of Lutherans.
    Let us abandon the inflammatory and hostile rhetoric, shall we?
  4. Joe Krohn
    February 14th, 2014 at 18:14 | #4
    So you are satisfied with both sides, Nicholas?
  5. February 14th, 2014 at 18:25 | #5
    Interestingly, this hostile calvinistic anabaptist Steve Hays attacks Lutherans for believing in Objective Justification:http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-death-of-lutheranism.html
  6. February 14th, 2014 at 18:27 | #6
    I’m on the LCMS’ side on the issue. But other people can be wrong without being heretics (heterodoxy versus heresy).
  7. Joe Krohn
    February 14th, 2014 at 18:38 | #7
    Pr. Rydecki, with all due respect; According to Is. 53:
    “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”
    And: “…by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.”
    There is a correlation here of bearing all the sin or sins of men resulting in a justification (an objective one) of those whose sins He bore. A parallel passage is Rom. 5:18. However, on many occasions you have denied this as well as the ELDoNA Theses. Yes, a man even receives this justification through faith. The bigger issue is a man un-justifying himself through un-faith since the gift of justification has come over all men.
  8. February 14th, 2014 at 18:53 | #8
    Rev. Paul Rydecki :
    Actually, what the reader of the ACLC statement will find is very little theology and very (very) many vain accusations of “logical fallacy,” and even the bizarre accusation of the ELDoNA having separated from Article IV of the Augsburg Confession. Fear not. Far from “completely rejecting justification as taught by Scripture,” the ELDoNA completely embraces justification as taught by Scripture and as confessed in the Augsburg Confession and throughout the Book of Concord. As for the completely false and unfounded accusation made in the above comment, I don’t think it’s helpful for a self-proclaimed “closet Calvinist” to be casting such aspersions on the ELDoNA’s confession of the Gospel. But if anyone wishes to discuss the actual content of the ELDoNA’s Theses on Justification in the light of Scripture and the Confessions, that could be productive.
    Pr. Rydecki,
    In just reading the first 8 pages of the document I have found quite a bit of solid theology and citations from our Lutheran fathers pertinent to the issue you have raised. I look forward to reading the document in full.
    BTW, where there is mention of logical fallacies, I think it is correct to raise them and they should be addressed.
  9. February 14th, 2014 at 19:04 | #9
    “Instead of justification by faith alone as the doctrine on which the church stands for falls, we now have justification minus faith.”
    This shows that Steve Hays is not reading the right blogs, if he wants to understand what mainstream Confessional Lutherans actually teach. Objective justification is not antithetical to justification by faith. Rather, it is what makes justification by faith possible. The sinner’s justification in Christ is received by faith. That’s the whole point. Justification is received. God does not create a new and separate justification for each believer,within the believer’s faith. Instead, what God does is to deliver his justification to the penitent sinner in and through the means of grace. And those who believe God’s Word receive, by faith, what is delivered to them.
    “Justification by faith alone” does not mean justification without Christ, without Christ’s life, without Christ’s death, without Christ’s resurrection, without Christ’s means of grace. “Objective” justification is about all those things. Without them, justification by faith “alone” would be nothing more than an existentialist mirage.
  10. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 14th, 2014 at 19:23 | #10
    To state what should be obvious, “justification by faith alone” also does not mean justification without faith. And yet Objective Justification teaches that God has declared the whole world of sinners to be righteous, not by faith in Christ. That’s not the teaching of the Scriptures.
  11. February 14th, 2014 at 19:45 | #11
    Jesus lived for the whole world of sinners. Jesus died for the whole world of sinners. Jesus was raised from the dead for the whole world of sinners. Jesus offers the means of grace to the whole world of sinners. And so yes, the objective side of justification pertains to the whole world of sinners. And the objective side of justification – that is, the justification of Christ himself; and in Christ of those for whom he lived, died, and rose again – is for the sake of faith. It elicits and invites faith. It is the object offaith. So, in that important evangelical sense, it is not “without faith.”
  12. February 14th, 2014 at 20:08 | #12
    Pr. Rydecki,
    One thing I have noticed from those of you who reject the Objective nature of justification, is that you are missing the forensic declaration concerning what the Lamb of God accomplishes for the entire human race. Sin enters the world and condemns the whole of it through Adam, and Jesus’s works removes, yes nails to the cross, the sins of the whole world. The Father responds to the works of Jesus on the cross and declares the world righteous. I just don’t get how you miss that.
  13. February 14th, 2014 at 20:42 | #13
    At a very basic level, without objective justification there is no absolution. It cannot be offered to everyone if it is not objectively true. Also, the objective nature of justification and the objective nature of Christ’s presence in the Sacrament by the speaking of the words, apart from faith, are parallel.
  14. Joel Dusek
    February 14th, 2014 at 20:50 | #14
    Good to see Pastors Rydecki and Webber debating this, as that should eliminate some of the misunderstandings as to what the two viewpoints mean.
    Is this an accurate statement of the positions?
    Side A: “God has declared Jesus righteous and all people everywhere to be righteous because of Jesus, and this is true whether a person believes it or not”. (Objectivity applies to belief.)
    Side B: “God has declared Jesus righteous and all people who believe in Him to be righteous, with no contribution from those people whatsoever”. (Objectivity applies to works.)
    If so, I’m on side B, though I agree there is such a thing as objective truth, (whether a person believes it or not). However, no one is justified – that is, declared righteous – without faith.
    Thanks, look forward to more clarity on this important point.
  15. February 14th, 2014 at 21:13 | #15
    “God has declared Jesus righteous and all people everywhere to be righteous because of Jesus, and this is true whether a person believes it or not.”
    Instead of “because of Jesus,” a better way to say this would be “inJesus.” “Because of Jesus” could imply that the justification of Jesus comes first, and then the justification of the world of sinners takes place after that and as a follow-up to that. But in actuality, the justification of Jesus is the justification of the world of sinners, since he was justified vicariously on their behalf and in their place – just as he had been condemned, and had suffered and died, vicariously on their behalf and in their place.
  16. Joe Krohn
    February 14th, 2014 at 21:18 | #16
    Please explain how your position relates to Isaiah 53:11.
  17. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 14th, 2014 at 22:00 | #17
    Yes, Jesus died for the whole world of sinners. But the Scriptures do not teach that the whole world of sinners has been justified. 2 Cor. 5:21 is very plain on this point. God made Him to be sin for us (yes, all people), so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God. We become the righteousness of God by faith in Him. That’s it. This notion of Christ being justified, and all people having been justified when He was justified, is not founded on any Scripture. There is only one way revealed in Scripture for sinners to be justified, and it’s by faith in Christ.
    What elicits and invites faith is the sweet Gospel that God loved the world in such a way that He gave His Son for the world so that whoever believes in Him may not perish but have everlasting life. What elicits and invites faith is the universal will of God for the salvation of all men, and that His call to repent and believe the Gospel is seriously intended for all. This notion that God has already justified all sinners without faith is by no means the object of faith, nor can it be, because it has no word of Scripture to support it.
    There is no Biblical record of this supposed forensic declaration upon unbelievers. Likewise there is no Scriptural record of the Father responding to the works of Jesus by declaring the world righteous. None. You can’t miss what’s not there. What there is in Scripture is the declaration of the Father that He justifies the one who believes in Jesus (Rom. 3:26) and that He counts faith for righteousness (Rom. 4:5-8). What there also is in Scripture is God’s declaration that all who do not believe in Jesus are not justified, but stand condemned already (Jn. 3:17-18).
  18. Joel Dusek
    February 14th, 2014 at 22:00 | #18
    @Pastor David Jay Webber #15 
    Pastor Webber, thanks for your response. If I understand you correctly, the different phrases change the timing of justification, and would you agree that either “because of Jesus” or “in Jesus” does not change thedeclaration itself, that Jesus and all people are declared righteous?
  19. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 14th, 2014 at 22:00 | #19
    @jgernander #13 
    At a very basic level, without objective justification there is no absolution. It cannot be offered to everyone if it is not objectively true.
    This statement contradicts Jesus’ plain words in John 20:23. If the Son of God authorizes His apostles to absolve people of their sins, then they are so authorized, and the forgiveness pronounced with the loosing Key is pronounced in heaven itself. In fact, God has no other way of forgiving sins than through the Word. Likewise, 2 Cor. 5:19-20 declares the ministry of the Word to be the very means by which God reconciles the world to Himself.
    Further, absolution is not offered to everyone. Christ does not authorize His apostles to absolve the impenitent, but He does command them to absolve the penitent.
    In order for me to believe that God grants me forgiveness of sins in Holy Baptism, I do not first have to believe that He has already granted forgiveness of sins to all people apart from Baptism, nor does He first have to have forgiven all people apart from Baptism. He tells me Baptism saves me. That is more than enough.
  20. Bryan Lidtke
    February 14th, 2014 at 23:40 | #20
    I don’t get into this debate much because it generally confuses me, but on the side of the screen here, Augsburg Confession IV is quoted. It says that “people are freely justified for Christ’s sake, through faith.” It seems pretty straightforward to me. If all people are justified regardless of whether they believe or not, why include “through faith”?
  21. Dutch
    February 15th, 2014 at 06:09 | #21
    This debate, has muddied waters for me. As I was taught, & understand it, wrong as it may be, is simply this: I was taught, Justification, occurred at the Cross. Sanctification, occurred by the One Who was to come, the Holy Spirit, that is His ground. He, the Holy Spirit, who is worthy of worship & praise, always seems to be lost & at times, forgotten, in far too many a debate.
    This debate, decades long, as I understand, sometimes seems far to academic & forensic. Citing this, quote who & that. How can we be academic & forensic, with what the Holy Spirit, is & does?
    Just looking at the basic definitions of Justification & Sanctification,their differences between the two, it seems pretty simple & basic to me. I’ve read many of these papers, for both sides. I see alot of names I do not know, but Scripture in It’s context, as we are taught to take it & use it, appears to be very lacking. Can either side, only allowed to use Scripture first, & only Luther, second, lay out the issues?
    I sit in a pew. How does this academic & forensic analysis, which is simple to me, I was taught by the best of men, pertain to me? The Holy Spirit, & all the mysteries of how & what He does, are absent, in both accounts. Why?
  22. February 15th, 2014 at 08:17 | #22
    Dutch, you & I are on the same page.
    On one side we have a tacit denial of the work of the Holy Spirit. Faith as is written in Holy Scripture comes by hearing the Word of God by men drawn by the Holy Spirit. Work is at the Hand of the Holy Spirt NOT man!
    So both sides are lacking somewhat because of this leaving out by both sides the Third Person Of The Trinity. Having said that, my LCMS Brothers have the truth, although they are shy about bringing the Holy Spirit to bear because that leads to Election, a Very Dangerous path to travel!
    So what we are left with is the LCMS Position with the Holy Spirit drawing the Elect.
    And this has to be dealt with great care lest one falls into other false derivatives that go against the clear teaching of Scripture one the 1580 BOC
    PAX
    IXOYC
  23. Jais H. Tinglund
    February 15th, 2014 at 09:06 | #23
    Rev. Paul Rydecki :
    To state what should be obvious, “justification by faith alone” also does not mean justification without faith.
    And to state what is equally obvious to any Lutheran, and equally important for a sinner to know to have any comfort in the faith: “justification by faith alone ” does not mean “justification by faith in your faith alone”, rather, the “faith” in the equation is faith in something, namely what God has already done and declared and now has His Church proclaim (rather than propose, as a mere possibility).
  24. Jais H. Tinglund
    February 15th, 2014 at 09:12 | #24
    Rev. Paul Rydecki :
    Likewise, 2 Cor. 5:19-20 declares the ministry of the Word to be the very means by which God reconciles the world to Himself.
    And clearly 2 Cor. 5:19-20 points out that God does this by having His Church calling sinners to be reconciled to God, and doing so on the grounds that God Himself has already reconciled Himself, namely by making Him who knew of no sin to become sin for us, so that we are that no more, but rather have become the righteousness of God in Him …
  25. Jais H. Tinglund
    February 15th, 2014 at 09:21 | #25
    Rev. Paul Rydecki :
    To state what should be obvious, “justification by faith alone” also does not mean justification without faith.
    And to state what is equally obvious to any Lutheran, and equally important for a sinner to know to have any comfort in the faith: “justification by faith alone ” does not mean “justification by faith in your faith alone”, rather, the “faith” in the equation is faith in something, namely what God has already done and declared and now has His Church proclaim (rather than propose, as a mere possibility).
  26. Jais H. Tinglund
    February 15th, 2014 at 09:25 | #26
    @Rev. Paul Rydecki #10 
    To state what should be obvious: “justification by faith alone” also does not mean justification without faith.
    And to state what is equally obvious to any Lutheran, and equally important to for a sinner to know to have any comfort in the faith: “justification by faith alone” does not mean “justification by faith in your faith alone”, rather, the “faith” in the equation is faith in something, namely what God has already done and declared and now has His Church proclaim, rather than propose as a mere possibility.
  27. Sven Wagschal
    February 15th, 2014 at 10:50 | #27
    What Pastor Rydecki is missing is the very basic point that the ministry is only able to proclaim and distribute the forgiveness of sins, life and justification because of that which god has actually done in Christ, because “god was in Christ and reconciled the world to himself.” (2 Kor 5,19) Only because of this work of god the father and the son the spirit is coming and dristibuting his gift of salvation by baptism, the preached word and the absolution, only because of the objective justification of the whole world from Adam to the last man ever to be burn before Christ returns. But this does mean that all these man will be saved, because many a man (or most of them) do not believe this message, and such a man “trample [s] underfoot the Son of God, and [...] profane[s] the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and outrage[s] the Spirit of grace”. (Hebr 10,29; there the whole sentence is not presence, but perfect.)
    Note: you do not have to “*first* believe that He has already granted forgiveness of sins to all people”, you have to believe that god has granted you forgiveness by, in and through the death and resurrection of Christ, and that in baptism you receive exactly this forgiveness (and in the word, and in the absoltion, and in the holy supper). Christian faith is this faith and none other. You receive this objective justification by faith and are now as subject justified (which is called accordingly “subjective justification”).
    In 2 Kor 5,19-20 Paul makes exactly this point: Because of god’s reconciling the world with himself in Christ, therefore his disciples go and bring this reconciliation to the peoples. Without objective justification there would be nothing to preach and to distribute.
    Luther in his two-part book “On the holy supper. Confession” from 1528 actually writes about this in his “Confession”. You may look it up here:https://archive.org/stream/lutheronsacramen00luth#page/416/mode/2up
    He writes (page 417-418):
    526. There are three persons and one God, who has given himself to us wholly and perfectly, with all that he is, and all that he possesses. The Father gives himself to us, with heaven and earth, together with every other creature, in order that they may serve us, and contribute to our necessities. But through the fall of Adam, this gift is obscured and rendered unavailable. For this reason, the Son afterwards gave himself also to us, he bestowed upon us all his works, his sufferings, his wisdom and righteousness, and reconciled us with the Father, by which we, living and restored again, might know and possess the Father also with his gifts.
    527. But because this grace would be accessible to no one, if it remained confined so profoundly, and could not come to us, the Holy Ghost therefore descends to us and bestows himself wholly and entirely; he teaches us to know this beneficence of Christ which has been manifested to us; he helps us to receive and preserve it, to use and impart it effectually, to increase and extend it: internally, by faith and other spiritual gifts, but externally through the gospel, through baptism, and the Sacrament of the Altar, by which he comes to us, as through three media or means, and exercises the sufferings of Christ in us, and employs it for the promotion of salvation.
    This is Luther’s confession (when he feared that he would dy soon and heretics would come and try to base their heresies on his name), it is the confession of all Lutheran fathers, and it is the confession of the Lutheran Church (you will notice that this piece is the ground for Luther’s teaching in the Small and Great Catechism on god in the first commandment and in the Apostle’s creed).
  28. February 15th, 2014 at 11:10 | #28
    Having read and studied this document:
    With great sadness I openly ponder how Pastors can reject the Holy Scripture, the clear teaching of the 1580 BOC, and historic Lutheran interpretation of such. In the above document the men’s doctrine is stripped naked and paraded for all to see.
    I openly wonder, having closely followed and been active in the genesis of this, and wanting to put this all to a misunderstanding; “no this is not what I meant but…….”.
    Repentance is possible only through the Holy Spirit.
    And the sum of it all is Repentance.
    May the men of the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America see the truth of the above document and Repent.
    PAX
    IXOYC
  29. February 15th, 2014 at 13:04 | #29
    Rev. Paul Rydecki :
    @Jim Pierce #12 
    There is no Biblical record of this supposed forensic declaration upon unbelievers. Likewise there is no Scriptural record of the Father responding to the works of Jesus by declaring the world righteous. None. You can’t miss what’s not there. What there is in Scripture is the declaration of the Father that He justifies the one who believes in Jesus (Rom. 3:26) and that He counts faith for righteousness (Rom. 4:5-8). What there also is in Scripture is God’s declaration that all who do not believe in Jesus are not justified, but stand condemned already (Jn. 3:17-18).
    Respectfully I must point out you are in error with your claim. Please read the following from Francis Pieper:
    2. Justification is not a physical or medical act (actus physicus sive medicinalis), by which the unrighteous man is changed by an inward transformation into a righteous man, but a judicial act (actus forensis sive iudicialis) by which the person who is in himself unrighteous is declared righteous.
    Justification is purely a judicial act. But it differs essentially from the declarations which are handed down in human courts. There the judge pronounces the righteous man righteous and the guilty man guilty. If he pronounces the guilty man righteous, he is an abomination to God (Prov. 17:15). But this very thing which the judge may not do God does when He justifies a man through the Gospel and faith. God pronounces the “ungodly” righteous (Rom. 4:5). The Apology calls attention to this difference between the actus forensis in the divine justification and the actus forensis in civil courts. “Therefore, since in this passage our righteousness is the imputation of the righteousness of another, we must here speak concerning righteousness otherwise than when in philosophy or in a civil court we seek after the righteousness of one’s own work” (Trigl. 207, Art. III, 185). Luther calls the teaching that the divine method of justification must be patterned after the rule governing human courts of justice “the venom of Satan” and “the most pestilential pest [pestilentissima pestis],” St. L. V:517. It is characteristic of all good Papists and poor Protestants to set up the principle that God can declare only such people righteous as are righteous in themselves, having kept the Law or at least desiring to keep it; it would be unethical for God to employ any other method of justification.
    However, God will not be counseled by men. As He has declared the righteous Christ to be unrighteous (”made Him to be sin,” 2 Cor. 5:21), so He declares men, who in themselves are unrighteous, to be righteous—He “justifieth the ungodly” (Rom. 4:5). Those who criticize the divine mode of justification ignore the divine mode of redemption. They have entirely forgotten that God placed His incarnate Son under the duty and curse of His Law, in the stead of man (Gal. 4:4–53:13); and having thus satisfied the demands of His justice, He now, through the Gospel and faith, justifies those who in themselves are unjust, who have transgressed all the commandments of God.
    Δικαιοῦν is always used in the New Testament in the declaratory, the forensic sense. Moreover, according to Scripture, God pronounces “the ungodly” righteous, “without the Law,” “without the deeds of the Law,” therefore without making any moral demands whatever on man; Scripture counts faith, to the exclusion of human worth and human works, for righteousness.Rom. 4:5: “To him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” This passage proves conclusively that justification is a forensic, declaratory act.
    Pieper, F. (1953). Christian Dogmatics (electronic ed., Vol. 2, pp. 524–525). St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House.
    Here Pieper provides ample Scriptural support for the teaching that there IS a “forensic declaration upon unbelievers.” Christ’s sacrifice on the cross is for the whole of the human race. Denial of the objective nature of justification is a rather large departure from the doctrine of our Lutheran confession. Indeed, as Pieper points out:
    An essential prerequisite of justification by faith, or of subjective justification, is the objective justification (the reconciliation) of all mankind. If God had not in His heart justified the whole world because of Christ’s vicarious satisfaction, and if this justification were not offered in the Gospel, there could not be a justification by faith. All those who deny the objective justification (the objective reconciliation) will, if they would be consistent, also deny that subjective justification is brought about by faith; they will have to regard faith as a complement of Christ’s merit—a human achievement. But objective reconciliation is the clear teaching of Scripture. Also our Lutheran Confessions base justification by faith on the fact that God is reconciled with the world and offers the forgiveness of sins as a gift (res promissa) in the Gospel. Apology: “When we believe that God, for Christ’s sake, is reconciled to us, we are justified freely by faith.” “Remission of sins is something promised for Christ’s sake. Therefore it cannot be received except by faith alone. For a promise cannot be received except by faith alone.” (Trigl. 147, Art. IV [II], 87; 145, ibid., 84.)
    Pieper, F. (1953). Christian Dogmatics (electronic ed., Vol. 2, p. 508). St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House.
    Of course, you are already familiar with what Pieper states, Pr. Rydecki. I think it important to answer your claim directly for the sake of our readers.
  30. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 15th, 2014 at 13:36 | #30
    Joel Dusek :
    Is this an accurate statement of the positions?
    Side A: “God has declared Jesus righteous and all people everywhere to be righteous because of Jesus, and this is true whether a person believes it or not”. (Objectivity applies to belief.)
    Side B: “God has declared Jesus righteous and all people who believe in Him to be righteous, with no contribution from those people whatsoever”. (Objectivity applies to works.)
    Joel, I wouldn’t use this language at all with regard to God “declaring Jesus righteous.” God revealed Jesus to be righteous at every point of His earthly life, from His conception, to His Baptism, to His transfiguration, to His death on the cross, to His resurrection. At no point did Jesus cease to be righteous. Even when our sins (i.e., the sins of the world) were imputed to Him and He was punished for them, He remained the Righteous One. Christ was righteous, but was counted a sinner by God. He never needed to be “absolved” or “justified” as sinners do, because He never ceased being righteous. He was “shown to be righteous,” He was “vindicated.” This is the sense of the one verse in Scripture that applies the Greek verb “dikaioo” (to justify) to Jesus (1 Tim. 3:16). There is no “vicarious justification” even hinted at in that verse.
    Conversely, at every point of our earthly lives, all men remain sinners. Even when the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us by faith, we remain sinners who are counted by God to be righteous, not with a righteousness of our own, but with the imputed righteousness of Christ.
    This cannot be said of unbelievers. They are sinners who are still counted as sinners by God. They have never been counted as anything but sinners.
    So, Joel, I would simplify your statement above to the following: “God has punished Jesus for the sins of all people, and all who trust in Him are declared by God to be righteous, without any merit or worthiness on their part, because God has clothed them in the righteousness of Jesus by faith in Jesus.”
  31. February 15th, 2014 at 13:36 | #31
    Pr. Rydecki,
    I would also like to add what Martin Chemnitz writes in this regard, too.
    Paul himself shows this with a most beautiful statement in 1 Cor. 4:3–4: “I am not aware of any charge against me, but in this I am not justified.” He adds the reason for this: “Because I am not judged by a human court, nor do I judge myself.… It is the Lord who judges me.” And in Rom. 4:2: “If Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God.”
    Thus, the use of the legal term “justification” refutes the ideas of the Epicureans. For it shows that the justification of the sinner is not some insignificant or perfunctory thing, but that the whole human being stands before the judgment of God and is examined both with respect to his nature as well as his works, and this according to the norm of the divine law. But because after the entrance of sin a human being in this life does not have true and perfect conformity with the law of God, nothing is found in this examination, whether in the person’s nature or in his works, that he can use to justify himself before God; rather the Law pronounces the sentence of condemnation, written by the very finger of God Himself.
    Now God does not justify the ungodly by some kind of mistake, as a judge often makes a faulty decision by failure to examine the evidence sufficiently or by wrong thinking; nor through indifference, as if He did not care about the transgression of His law; nor through wickedness, as if He approved of our iniquity, connived with it, or were in collusion with the impious. A justification of this kind God Himself pronounces to be an abomination, Ex. 23:1Is. 5:23Prov. 17:15. God cannot retract the sentence of condemnation revealed in the Law, unless it is perfectly satisfied or fulfilled, Matt. 5:18.
    Thus righteousness and satisfaction are required where God is to justify. Luther is correct when he says that God remits no sin unless the Law has been satisfied with regard to it. In the case of human judgment, to be sure, guilt is absolved either because of some preceding merit (for they are accounted worthy who deserve to be forgiven), or with respect to present righteousness and innocence either of the cause or of the person, or with respect to a satisfaction which the guilty party promises to make either to the judge or to his opponent in the case. But before God’s judgment man can put up nothing in his own defense in order that he might be justified, as many very clear Scripture passages declare.
    Therefore, because God does not justify out of frivolity, unconcern, error, or iniquity, nor because He finds anything in man whereby he might be justified before God; and yet the just requirement of the Law must be fulfilled in those who are to be justified, Rom. 8:4, therefore a foreign righteousness must intervene—the kind of righteousness which not only with payment of penalties but also with perfect obedience to the divine law made satisfaction in such a way that it could be a propitiation for the sins of the whole world. 
    To this the terrified sinner, condemned by the voice of the Law, flees in true faith. This he desires, begs for, lays hold of; to this he submits himself; this he uses as his defense before the judgment seat of God and against the accusation of the Law. By regard for this and by its imputation he is justified, that is, he is absolved from the comprehensive sentence of condemnation and receives the promise of eternal life. This is what Paul is saying in Rom. 3:31 : “The doctrine of the righteousness of faith does not destroy the Law but upholds it.”
    Chemnitz, M., & Preus, J. A. O. (1999). Loci theologici (electronic ed., p. 481). St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House.
    Please notice what I have bolded.
  32. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 15th, 2014 at 13:47 | #32
    Mr. Pierce, did you miss what Pieper said in your own quote? Even Pieper got this right. God doesn’t declare the unbeliever righteous at all, because to be just, God can only declare a sinner to be just if that sinner is covered in the righteousness of Another. That happens by imputation of the righteousness of Christ, which happens by faith in Christ.
    …and having thus satisfied the demands of His justice, He now, through the Gospel and faith, justifies those who in themselves are unjust, who have transgressed all the commandments of God.
    God doesn’t first justify all people, and then impute the righteousness of Christ to those who believe. He imputes the righteousness of Christ to believers. He does it “through the Gospel and faith.” They are “ungodly” in themselves, but “righteous” by the imputation of the righteousness of Christ.
    So, I appreciate the quote!
  33. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 15th, 2014 at 13:49 | #33
    May the men of the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America see the truth of the above document and Repent.
    Every single man of the ELDoNA has much of which to repent every day, but may God so do to us, and more also, if we repent of our confession that all men are sinners and are justified solely by faith in Christ. And may God judge between us and those who condemn our Christian confession.
  34. Sven Wagschal
    February 15th, 2014 at 13:54 | #34
    @Rev. Paul Rydecki #32 
    “God doesn’t first justify all people, and then impute the righteousness of Christ to those who believe.”
    I see. So God did not reconcile the world to himself?
    ” He imputes the righteousness of Christ to believers. He does it “through the Gospel and faith.” They are “ungodly” in themselves, but “righteous” by the imputation of the righteousness of Christ.”
    Of course. This is indisputed by all parties here.
  35. February 15th, 2014 at 13:59 | #35
    Pr. Rydecki,
    First, I answered your false claim which is “There is no Biblical record of this supposed forensic declaration upon unbelievers.” Both Chemnitz and Pieper give you the Scriptural basis for this “forensic declaration.”
    Second, Pieper writes, “An essential prerequisite of justification by faith, or of subjective justification, is the objective justification (the reconciliation) of all mankind. If God had not in His heart justified the whole world because of Christ’s vicarious satisfaction, and if this justification were not offered in the Gospel, there could not be a justification by faith. ” So, how do you answer Pieper? Pieper provides you with the Scriptural basis for objective justification.
  36. February 15th, 2014 at 14:10 | #36
    Perhaps Rev. Rydecki is making the same mistake I made when I first heard the doctrine of Objective Justification: namely, that it came across as “universalism” as in all are saved and redeemed period, with or without faith.
  37. Pr. Jim Schulz
    February 15th, 2014 at 14:30 | #37
    I simply start with and stick to a confessional definition of justification:
    “Only God’s grace, Christ’s merit, and faith belong and are necessary to the article of justification. Faith receives these blessings in the promise of the Gospel, by which Christ’s righteousness is credited to us. From this we receive and have forgiveness of sins, reconciliation with God, sonship, and are made heirs of eternal life.” Solid Declaration III:25.
    Because of what “belong to and are necessary” to the article of justification, any talk of so-called “objective justification” without so-called “subjective justification” is to stray from a confessional definition of justification.
    I have noticed a change from speaking of “objective justification” and “subjective justification” (as if those were two separate doctrines of justification) to speaking of the “objective side” and “subjective side” of justification. I think that’s a good sign.
  38. R.D.
    February 15th, 2014 at 14:35 | #38
    @Rev. Paul Rydecki #33 
    “And may God judge between us and those who condemn our Christian (sic) confession.”
    That statement strikes fear into my heart for your sake, Rev. Rydecki. Please return to the Word and repent.
    All,
    This “debate” reminds me of a church I visited while traveling a couple of years ago. The retired snow-bird meddling pastor was teaching a bible class, claiming the Bible is full of “if and then” statements. He claimed the 3rd article of the creed was actually only about redemption. He essentially argued eldona’s justification, faith in faith.
    My widowed-mother and I went to work skewering him in front of his clueless class (for all you kids out there, having the catechism memorized was very useful!) And like eldona’s theses, the fake pastor had nothin’ to back up his bad theology. Oddly familiar, he tried to quote Robert Preus!
  39. February 15th, 2014 at 14:51 | #39
    Because of what “belong to and are necessary” to the article of justification, any talk of so-called “objective justification” without so-called “subjective justification” is to stray from a confessional definition of justification.
    Jim, Since no one has done that – at least not during the past decade or so of this debate – why mention it? It could give the impression that you are trying to stake out some sort of balanced middle ground between the two extremes of this debate. But in reality, the side that recognizes the legitimacy of the objective/subjective teaching is the side that is already staking out that balanced and Biblical middle ground. Kurt Marquart – whose teaching we accept, but whose teaching Pastor Rydecki rejects – said this already 13 years ago:
    A contemporary clarification of justification would have to begin with what the Formula of Concord calls “the only essential and necessary elements of justification,” that is, (1) the grace of God, (2) the merit of Christ, (3) the Gospel which alone offers and distributes these treasures, and (4) faith which alone receives or appropriates them (SD III.25). The first three items define the universal/general dimension of justification (forgiveness as obtained for all mankind on the cross, proclaimed in the resurrection [see Rom 4:25 and 1 Tim 3:16] and offered to all in the means of grace), and the fourth, the individual/personal dimension. No one actually has forgiveness unless and until he receives it by faith. This distinction between forgiveness as obtained for and offered to all, and that same forgiveness as actually received and possessed, is often described (as in the English translation of Pieper’s Christian Dogmatics) with the words “objective” and “subjective.” …
    The right teaching here must defend the fullness of our Lord’s saving work against the denial of sola gratia (grace alone) by Rome on the one hand and against the denial of universalis gratia (universal grace) and the means of grace by Geneva on the other. Only the Church of the Augsburg Confession teaches the article of justification in its evangelical truth and plenitude, that is, both grace alone and universal grace, and therefore also the means of grace! (“Augsburg Revisited,” in 2001: A Justification Odyssey, pp. 173-74)
  40. Pr. Jim Schulz
    February 15th, 2014 at 15:01 | #40
    Jay, it seems to me the terms “Objective Justification” and “Subjective Justification” have not been helpful in teaching the doctrine of Justification by Faith Alone. Look at all the confusion the terminology has and continues to create. So good, let’s be clear: there are objective and subjective features of the doctrine of Justification, not two separate stand alone doctrines of justification: one without faith and one with faith.
  41. Thomas
    February 15th, 2014 at 18:35 | #41
    In my view, Mr. Pierce is correct that Dr. Pieper has made an unassailable in case in favor is objective justification. The Doctor’s Scriptural references are plentiful and dispositive. Clearly, all the sins of all mankind were put upon Jesus when He went to the cross. His resurrection proves that the Father has accepted His payment for all these sins. This forgiveness and salvation is individually appropriated through faith in Jesus Christ. When people refuse Christ, they are refusing a forgiveness and salvation that has already been prepared for them. That, of course, is one of the many tragedies that befall people who die in unbelief. That being said, I have a mentor who is a member of a COGIC church. She is unbelievably enthusiastic about Christ and seems to find a great deal more comfort in the Gospel than many Lutherans I know. Maybe these sterile theological debates are part of the problem. I understand the historic Liturgy and its purpose and all that, but I really wish that the orthodox Lutheran faith had a little more enthusiasm (I know, a bad word) about Jesus. I get a little tired of the funereal air of the worship service. Isn’t the Gospel good news? Maybe I should just join a COGIC church.They love the Lord and don’t seem to waste a great deal of time worrying about this kind of thing. I used to love tedious theological hair-splitting like this, but know I just want to know and love the Lord. What does Jesus say? “I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live, and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die.” That’s good enough for me these days.
  42. February 15th, 2014 at 19:04 | #42
    Church Of God In Christ
    Church of God in Christ
    Pentecostal Holiness church founded by Elder Charles Harrison Mason in the late 1890′s. Comprehensive official site, including directory of congregations.
    Thomas you are very honest!
    I see your point. Having said that I find your comments about Dr. Piper very telling. Yes Orthodox Lutherans do get unbelievably enthusiastic (that bad word—- again) about doctrine because eternal salvation rests upon this foundation.
    Most of the people on this post are Pastors in charge of Flocks.
    The flock has to be properly nourished on the pure Gospel and false doctrine rooted out.
    The pastors arguing these points are having to carefully research the Holy Scriptures, the 1580 Book of Concord, and Lutheran historic works.
    I as a layman do not want a pastor that does not have a proper basic knowledge of the above.
    A person takes from a worship service what he brings to the service.
    Thank that comment over carefully before you rebut.
    PAX
  43. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 15th, 2014 at 19:29 | #43
    Jim Pierce :
    @Rev. Paul Rydecki #32 
    Pr. Rydecki,
    First, I answered your false claim which is “There is no Biblical record of this supposed forensic declaration upon unbelievers.” Both Chemnitz and Pieper give you the Scriptural basis for this “forensic declaration.”
    Actually, no, you still provided no Biblical record of a forensic declaration of righteousness upon unbelievers. Chemnitz speaks of faith itself as the “forensic appeal to the throne of grace,” as a result of which, the believer is justified. Pieper’s basis for the forensic declaration, in the quote you provided above, is the very righteousness of Christ imputed to the believer. Without such imputation, no one is justified. So you haven’t at all shown that all unbelievers have been declared righteous in God’s courtroom.
    Second, Pieper writes, “An essential prerequisite of justification by faith, or of subjective justification, is the objective justification (the reconciliation) of all mankind. If God had not in His heart justified the whole world because of Christ’s vicarious satisfaction, and if this justification were not offered in the Gospel, there could not be a justification by faith. ” So, how do you answer Pieper? Pieper provides you with the Scriptural basis for objective justification.
    And here Pieper is in error. He provides no Scriptural basis for this claim at all, but philosophizes that it must be so. The Scriptures do not tell us about justification happening “in the heart of God.” That’s Enthusiasm. The Scriptures teach that God’s Spirit justifies through the Word. God offers justification in the Gospel as a promise of what He will do / does do for the believer on the basis of Christ’s atonement, not as the passing on of a one-time act of justification in the past.
    I recommend this new publication from Repristination Press, which presents the teaching of the diocese on this subject.
  44. February 15th, 2014 at 20:22 | #44
    Pr. Rydecki,
    Of course, both Chemnitz and Pieper provide the Scriptural basis for objective/subjective justification. Pieper didn’t merely “philosophize” but writes extensively in his Dogmatics concerning this topic. Indeed, anyone may pick up volume two and begin reading from page 347 to find a detailed treatment of the teaching of objective/subjective justification. To try to wave away Pieper’s work from the Scriptures as one who “philosophizes” is dishonest and is the sort of rhetoric I expected from a Jacksonite. Indeed, it pains me to see you adopt the tactics of the Jacksonites.
    You know that I have written on this topic here at BJS (see here if you have forgotten). I have went “around the block” many times with the Jacksonites on this subject. So, at any rate, if you are interested in re-reading the Scriptural basis for the teaching of objection/subjection justification, then please follow the link I provided in addition to the citations I have already provided. The comments in that thread are quite informative, too.
    I posted the following on my Facebook wall a little bit ago, and it is certainly pertinent to this topic. Chemnitz writes in his Examination,
    “However, the Gospel reveals and declares this mystery which was hidden for long ages, that since the human race could not make satisfaction to the Law and the Law could in no way be dissolved and destroyed, God made a transfer of the Law to another person (a matter which belongs to the article of justification) who should fulfill the Law both by satisfaction and obedience for the whole human race. And because that person is both God and man, therefore His satisfaction is the expiation for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2), and hence Christ is the end of the Law for the salvation of everyone who believes (Rom. 10:4)” (Vol., I, Art. VII, p. 497)
    And in the Formula of Concord…
    “As mentioned above, the obedience not only of one nature, but of the entire person, is a complete satisfaction and atonement for the human race. By this obedience God’s eternal, unchangeable righteousness, revealed in the Law, has been satisfied. So our righteousness benefits us before God and is revealed in the Gospel. Faith relies on this before God, which God credits to faith, as it is written in Romans 5:19:
    For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.
    The blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. (1 John 1:7)
    The righteous shall live by his faith. (Habakkuk 2:4 [see also Romans 1:17])
    58 Neither Christ’s divine nor human nature by itself is credited to us for righteousness, but only the obedience of the person who is at the same time God and man. And faith thus values Christ’s person because it was made under the Law [Galatians 4:4] for us and bore our sins, and, in His going to the Father, He offered to His heavenly Father for us poor sinners His entire, complete obedience. This extends from His holy birth even unto death. In this way, He has covered all our disobedience, which dwells in our nature, and its thoughts, words, and works. So disobedience is not charged against us for condemnation. It is pardoned and forgiven out of pure grace alone, for Christ’s sake.” McCain, P. T. (Ed.). (2005). Concordia: The Lutheran Confessions (p. 545). St. Louis, MO: Concordia Publishing House.(FC III, 57-58)
    Please pay special attention to what Chemnitz states concerning the article of justification.
    I am leaving this here.
  45. Joe Krohn
    February 15th, 2014 at 20:49 | #45
    Do you think you will address the Isaiah 53 passages I posted earlier (#7)? Clearly verse 11 shows a justification of those whose sins Christ bears.
  46. Thomas
    February 15th, 2014 at 21:37 | #46
    Realistically, I’m probably never going to leave the Lutheran church. I believe the doctrine to be correct. As to your comment about taking from a worship service what one brings to it, I see your point. That’s true to a large extent. That said, I attend a local COGIC church here in Nashville occasionally. The reality is that there is a freedom in those services to express oneself in ways that would not be socially acceptable in my Lutheran church. I guess I’m just saying that sometimes I enjoy the music, the preaching, and the emotional expressions of happiness that occur at the COGIC church more than the staid, reserved atmosphere of my Lutheran church. Again, I believe that the Lutheran church is correct in its doctrine, which really is the important thing. But the COGIC church is a Christian church, even if heterodox in some respects by Lutheran standards.
  47. Rev. Paul Rydecki
    February 16th, 2014 at 00:30 | #47
    Jim, with these extensive Chemnitz quotes, all you’ve done is successfully knocked down a whole mess of straw men. While you waste your time with your haughty ad hominem’s against “Jacksonites,” you seem to be missing the point entirely, and more seriously, missing the Holy Spirit’s teaching. None of us in the diocese disagrees with a single word of these Chemnitz quotes. But nowhere does Chemnitz even come close to saying, much less implying, that God has pronounced the whole world of sinners to be righteous in His sight.
    For example,
    “However, the Gospel reveals and declares this mystery which was hidden for long ages, that since the human race could not make satisfaction to the Law and the Law could in no way be dissolved and destroyed, God made a transfer of the Law to another person (a matter which belongs to the article of justification) who should fulfill the Law both by satisfaction and obedience for the whole human race. And because that person is both God and man, therefore His satisfaction is the expiation for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2), and hence Christ is the end of the Law for the salvation of everyone who believes (Rom. 10:4)” (Vol., I, Art. VII, p. 497)
    Yes to everything Chemnitz has said here. Christ has made satisfaction for the sins of the world and was obedient for the whole human race. His satisfaction is the expiation for the sins of the whole world. We teach the same thing. This is not treated by him or by Scripture as the justification of the human race. He rightly cites Rom. 10:4 as he connects the expiation made by Christ for all with faith, resulting in salvation (which, for Chemnitz, is always synonymous or at least simultaneous with justification), not for the whole world, but for “everyone who believes.” The human race has not been justified. Only individuals, that is, believers in Christ, are said to be justified in the language of Scripture and of Chemnitz and of the Confessions. AC:IV beautifully describes how justification is the result of faith in the universal satisfaction made by Christ.
    And what do you seek to prove with your quote from the Formula (or any of the Bible passages cited therein)? Every man in the diocese confesses every word of the Formula of Concord, including the ones you quoted. Yes, “the obedience…of the entire person [of Christ] is a complete satisfaction and atonement for the human race.” But this is not the same thing as the justification of the human race, nor is it treated as such in the Confessions. Have you failed to read our actual writings on this matter where we confess this over and over again?
    Or do you misinterpret the following words from the Formula to apply to all the atheists and Muslims in the world?
    In this way, He has covered all our (all atheists and Muslims?) disobedience, which dwells in our nature, and its thoughts, words, and works. So disobedience is not charged against us (not charged against the atheists and Muslims?) for condemnation. It is pardoned and forgiven out of pure grace alone, for Christ’s sake.
    Scripture teaches that the sins of unbelievers are indeed charged against them for condemnation, and that they are not “pardoned and forgiven.” The Formula here is referring to believers in Christ, as all the context makes clear. It is pure eisegesis to read universal justification back into these words.
  48. Sven Wagschal
    February 16th, 2014 at 06:13 | #48
    Rev. Rydecki, would you please aknowledge that nobody is saying that objective justifaction means that all are now saved? Of course, even the confessors of the biblical truth of objective justification confess that the objective justifaction of the whole world is of no use to anybody as long he is not believing in Christ (compare the quote from Luther above in my post #27). The “Objectivitists” don’t believe that anybody is justified without faith. So please stop acccusing people (esp. Jim Pierce) of things which they do not teach.
    Instead, please address these verses: In 2 Kor 5 Paul teaches that the whole world is reconciled with god (yes indeed: Christ has covered even the disobedience of Muslims and Atheists, and God does not count it against them—but if they do not believe that (which is the same as to say “if they don’t believe in Christ”), then they do not have it and will perish), and in Rom 5,8-10 Paul teaches that the reconcilation with God happened when we were his enemies (objective justification) so that now, as we are now reconciled with God (subjective justifcation), we will be saved. These are not two different things, but it is one and the same act, one justification with an objective and a subjective side.
  49. February 16th, 2014 at 06:40 | #49
    This statement is true.
    ” This is not treated by him or by Scripture as the justification of the human race. ”
    But what about the rest of this?
    ______________________________________________
    Critique of the Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America’s Theses on Justification
    Abstract: The critique points out logical fallacies thesis by thesis. In general, the conclusions of the theses are built on three fallacies: Straw Man, Equivocation, and Exclusion. The critique is thorough, but not exhaustive due to the quantity of error and volume of material.
    the preface is already the conclusion of the matter even before it has begun. It stays that Rev. Rydecki’s statements regarding the Article of Justification were entirely compatible with the fathers of Lutheran orthodoxy. Therefore the theses that follow are not in fact an examination to see if Objective Justification “was what was understood by the old
    Lutheran dogmaticians and exegetes, complementary to what they taught concerning the Article of Justification, or inimical to it,” but an attempt to prove a foregone conclusion.
    ACLC Response Concerning First a Matter of Definition We are grateful that the adopted theses clarify what is actually at issue. Previously we had difficulty determining what the issue was between the following four points. 1. This is a reaction to certain overstatements and abuses. 2. This is an argument over terms (logomachy). 3. This is an issue of properly distinguishing between Law and Gospel. 4. This is a rejection of the Objective aspect of Justification as being substantively incorrect. The theses state clearly that this is not about the term (cf. thesis 26), nor merely about overstatements and abuses, but that it is in fact about a substantive difference in teaching
    _____________________________________________
    This document outlines just the tip of the problems.
    This is the problem that has to be corrected.
    Even the authors admit all of the error can not be addressed.
    The link is at the head of the post, how can this be ignored?
    Any response?
    How can one go about refuting appendix 3.
    Just asking?
  50. February 16th, 2014 at 06:42 | #50
    This is beyond belief.
    Appendix 4—Statements from Rev. Dr. Robert Preus’ Sons Rev. Rolf Preus responded:

Only in WELS - That "Straight" Synod Where Two Gay Men Take Over a Congregation - With the Help of Synod Leaders. And the PR Director Is in the Hoosegow

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I was thinking about the possibility of practicing on the organ at St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Church on 8th and Vliet once it opens again as a congregation. Karen Beaumont and I were thinking the church will not reopen as a congregation at anytime soon. I saw this on the Face Book page of the congregation and Pastor Hastings mentioned something that one of the long time congregation members was hoping the church would reopen after all of this stupid stuff with these two gay men gets resolved. If the church does reopen, I would like to get in there at some point to practice on the organ.

Another thing Karen mentioned to me (and we talked about this), was that the organ hasn't really been worked on in a number of years other than that Petersen module, whatever it is, being installed. Last time I heard and saw the organ was at Karen Beaumont's concert in fall of 2012. It had some nice string stops like you mentioned and there were some stops I came across in the stop list. Did any of the reed stops ever work for you? Just wondering.

At this point, does it look like the congregation of St. John's is dissolved or do you forsee the church reopening at some point in time? I think this whole gay thing was very stupid to begin with and that these two members did this terrible thing to Pastor Hastings and the congregation. I hope something will be done to where the church can reopen and Pastor Hastings can continue his work as a pastor.

Anyway, have a great weekend and let me know if anything has happened regarding whether the church will reopen and I can try out the organ for myself. Talk to you later.

Mike Keegan

Septuagesima Sunday, 2014. 1 Corinthians 9:24 - 10:5. Run the Entire Race

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Septuagesima Sunday, 2014

Pastor Gregory L. Jackson


Bethany Lutheran Church, 10 AM Central Time


The Hymn #132                           O God of God                                    3:55
The Confession of Sins
The Absolution
The Introit p. 16
The Gloria Patri
The Kyrie p. 17
The Gloria in Excelsis
The Salutation and Collect p. 19
The Epistle and Gradual       
The Gospel              
Glory be to Thee, O Lord!
Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
The Nicene Creed p. 22
The Sermon Hymn # 151            Christ the Life                       2:78

Running the Complete Race, Not Just One Heat

The Hymn # 227     Come Holy Ghost                             2:72
The Preface p. 24
The Sanctus p. 26
The Lord's Prayer p. 27
The Words of Institution
The Agnus Dei p. 28
The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
The Benediction p. 31
The Hymn #409   Let Us Ever Walk                              2:91

1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.  25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.  26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:  27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;  2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;  4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.  5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

KJV Matthew 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. 2 And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3 And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, 4 And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. 5 Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise. 6 And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? 7 They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. 8 So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. 9 And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. 10 But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. 11 And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, 12 Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. 13 But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? 14 Take that thineis, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. 15 Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? 16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.

Septuagesima Sunday

Lord God, heavenly Father, who through Thy holy word hast called us into Thy vineyard: Send, we beseech Thee, Thy Holy Spirit into our hearts, that we may labor faithfully in Thy vineyard, shun sin and all offense, obediently keep Thy word and do Thy will, and put our whole and only trust in Thy grace, which Thou hast bestowed upon us so plenteously through Thy Son Jesus Christ, that we may obtain eternal salvation through Him, who liveth and reigneth with Thee and the Holy Ghost, one true God, world without end. Amen.



Run the Entire Race

1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

Early on, I learned one thing about "conservative" Lutherans. They were good for one heat, but not for all the other qualifying races - and the final one. One heat was enough and they were done.

Paul's comparison here is directly from the world of sports. Athletics were very important to the Hellenistic world. The early Greeks would stop a war and hold an athletic contest with the same men. Later, they would take the field and go back to war again. Nothing kept them from sports - just like today.

Winning was very important. The Emperor Nero made sure he always won, because it was not enough just to be there.

This is a beautiful comparison to remaining faithful all our lives, not just for a time. I was reading on the Net about runners establishing a pace so they can win a long-distance run. Many sprint out ahead but fail before the race is finished.

One famous Evangelist bragged that he "owned Toronto." He was a big deal for a brief time, but he lost faith and dropped out. His sprint was not good to reach the finish line. And yet he published the fact that he once was number one.

W. F. Buckley said about Kissinger - he completed 3 out of 4 laps and then collected his prize to the cheers of the crowd, while the others finished the race. That was his commentary about the Nobel Prize and the Viet Nam war.

The battle is often recast as if one moment in time matters. Paul says - all are running this race. But only one wins the prize. Run to win the race, not just to be in the opening where the herd starts out at once.

Relatively few remain faithful. I can look at my peers who were confirmed in old-fashioned liturgical churches. They had thorough training. One now is a Hindu. Another one just lost a parent - but there will be no funeral. I read on the Internet about various former Lutherans who went this way and that - such as Steve Jobs, who was famous for being a celebrity Buddhist.

25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

The crown in those days was a circle of laurel leaves, not the gold crown we often imagine. More importantly, the word crown is the name Stephen. I believe this is a deliberate word-play to remind the believers of that first martyr - Stephen - who was faithful unto death. Even as they were killing him, Stephen witnessed to his faith.

So often mankind is misled into thinking in terms of doing rather than believing. But it is in believing that all our actions are shaped. If we start on the side of doing, we fall into justification by works thinking.

That is so common. When asked about departing from the faith, many clergy will answer, with some wrath, "Do you know what I have done?" 

In the race analogy, keeping one's eye on the finish line means subordinating everything to that. The runner will select the right shoes, adhere to the right diet, and keep up the training regimen. One famous boxer, Rocky Marciano, was famous for training far beyond anyone's expectations. He did that for one reason - to outlast the other boxer. And he did.

Navy SEALs train so that they have to jump into ice cold water when they are so exhausted they are falling asleep. They have to learn to ignore the natural need for sleep and make another effort, beyond anyone else's ability.

This crown is incorruptible. Eternal life means being with Christ forever and enjoying the consummation of all His promises. But that also means having a life where the Word is under attack and we tire of that battle.

26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:  27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

The footrace is a good comparison, because anyone can visualize the troop of runners starting out and the weaker ones falling away. Talking does not win the race. 


Paul compared his work to running and to fighting. He wanted to complete the race (as in Pilgrim's Progress) and to fight the good fight. Just as pagan false teachers come to our doors for conversion, so do opportunities for the Gospel being taught.

Remaining faithful is the big challenge, because events can discourage us at times. We can waver in our desire to hear the Gospel. But trusting in the Savior, we have our particular roles and crosses laid out for us by God. Desiring only the best for us, He gives us challenges and times of apparent drought. The challenges revive our spirit and hunger for the righteousness of faith. The times of apparent drought help us appreciate His blessings even more.

I was getting tired of publishing, probably just tired of grading papers. And then a new way of finishing e-books came up . That made it fun. And the justification by faith debate started over again.

People talk about the Good Ol' Days. These are the Good Ol' Days. Justification by faith has not been taken seriously by the Synodical Conference in the longest time. I will let others determine when the last time was. At best, it was 30 years ago.

New generations are learning what faith in Christ means. They are opening up the Book of Concord and finding today's issues in front of them. They are reading Luther, learning and chuckling at his humor - but profoundly affected by his spiritual wisdom derived from the Word.

Others have said it for centuries, as Chemnitz did - "We are living in the last days of an insane, old world." Whenever that last day might be, we should still be running and slugging away, not fainting or shadow-boxing.



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