Frosty Bivens, Fuller Alumnus - Rebukes the Truth.Repent of Telling the Truth, Foul Dungeon-Dweller

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Tim Niedfeldt

14 hours ago via mobile

A simple, concise depiction of where WELS is headed. http://adam4d.com/comics/2013-08-14-amazed1.png

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Bryan Lidtke, Paul Rydecki, Daniel Baker and 3 others like this.
Kimara Winters Really? Are you saying this from field experience or from some admin indications? That's not our experience out here...sad to hear it is elsewhere
11 hours ago via mobile · Like
Tim Niedfeldt Both for sure..
11 hours ago via mobile · Like
Chris J Pluger Sorry this is your experience of the WELS. It's not mine.
9 hours ago · Like
Tim Niedfeldt Indeed...it is mine. And only my opinion. And even as I am not technically in the WELS anymore...I am hiding out at a WELS church that remains confessional (I indeed hope it might go Independent or ELDoNA one day) There are plenty of places to hide out still in the WELS but the slippery slope is there and no one is stopping the synod from sliding down it.
9 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1
Forrest Bivens "The Lord rebuke you!" Tim, for your slander. May God grant you repentance and renewal, with love.
2 hours ago · Like · 1
Paul Rydecki My experience with the WELS was being tossed out and branded a heretic for teaching that sinners are only justified by faith in Christ. So the Lord's rebuke is certainly in order, for those who condemn His Gospel.
21 minutes ago · Like · 3
Tim Niedfeldt I just go with, "Ain't slander if it's true, I'll put that rebuke back on you"
4 minutes ago · Like

Christian Schulz Amen, Pr. Rydecki.
6 hours ago · Like · 1
Daniel Baker The WELS is like a parasitic vine that wraps itself around a sapling, choking out the tree's living leaves. The vine's leaves put on a good show, giving the appearance that the young tree is thriving and healthy, but at the end of the day the vine's only fruit is a dead stump. So too with the WELS. Her time is short. The Lord will not be mocked by the treachery committed against His Holy Gospel, and the rebuke He gives will not be a hypocritical Facebook comment.
3 hours ago · Like · 1
Bryan Lidtke Pr. Bivens, what did Tim say that was wrong? I didn't see any lies in the statements he made...
2 hours ago via mobile · Like
Tim Niedfeldt The missing piece Bryan is that Prof. Bivens and I were both members at Victory of the Lamb. I would bet ya 2:1 he took my cartoon as a direct slander against Victory of the Lamb rather than a general indictment against the concept as opposed to my statement that the WELS is slipping. Prof Bivens has stated in other communication that he does not engage in debate, at least not in the online world, so I don't think you'll get a response from him. That is sad, as of course I would relish such a thing.

Of course this is one of the larger problems in the synod is it not? That no one will debate? Everything is personal, Everything is slander, everything breaks the 8th commandment. For me it never is personal. Satire as I posted, just pokes the hive a little. I have done very little public expression of angst with WELS online, but when I do it ALWAYS elicits some sort of message public or private that I should 1.) Not discuss anything negative in the WELS Online 2.) We should all just get along and treat each other in brotherly love or 3.) It is slander/breaking the 8th commandment to be critical.

This is of course ridiculous. If I stated something so ludicrous...say for example.....that we were "justified and forgiven our sins before we were born and before faith in Christ", that every WELS pastor would jump on my wall and show conclusively how this is a false doctrine and I should be put out of the church. That's contending for the faith. Right now, They won't say "boo"

We know what happens to those intrepid pastors anyways. (and if Spencer keeps it up he will be walking down Rydecki way soon enough.)
about an hour ago · Like · 2
Scott E. Jungen Prof. Blivens how about you come visit the Core in the Northern Wisconsin District for some popcorn and Pepsi.
about an hour ago · Like · 1
Bryan Lidtke The one thing that confuses me about your very good response Tim is why would he even comment on here if he won't engage in online debates? Wouldn't it be "the brotherly thing to do" if he sent you a private message instead? Because nothing that is said in public can be rebuked in public, of course. It would have to be addressed in a private message out of love...
59 minutes ago · Like · 3
Bryan Lidtke Actually, Scott, they seem to have gotten rid of the popcorn. There wasn't any that I saw there when I went a few weeks ago. The woman next to me had some coffee though...