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The Supreme Court is on its summer break, but there is already talk about a big case next year that could set a new precedent for the separation of church and state.
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The topic of the case of Town of Greece v. Galloway came up at a recent Supreme Court Review at the National Constitution Center, which was also hosted by the Anti-Defamation League. (Watch video of the panel discussion here.)
Our three panelists, Erwin Chemerinsky, Frederick Lawrence and Lyle Denniston, pegged Town of Greece as a decision to watch that could alter the landscape of the concept of the separation of church and state at public facilities.
Town of Greece v. Galloway involves the legality of saying a prayer before the start of public township board meeting.
In 2008, two Greece, New York, residents sued over the town’s practice of having a prayer delivered before board meetings, in a community heavily dominated by Christian churches.
At the heart of the case is the Establishment Clause in the Constitution’s First Amendment, which deals with issues about the separation of church and state. The residents who sued say the board’s policy about the prayers was tantamount to the endorsement of a religion.
They believed the practice violated the First Amendment because of the types of prayers offered. A U.S. district court said the prayers didn’t violate the First Amendment. But the 2nd Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals in May 2012 overturned the lower court decision.
Greece is mostly Christian, and most of the prayers offered at its board meeting were Christian or came from Christian clergy within that community.
After initial complaints in 2007, the board in Greece invited a Wiccan priestess, a chairman of a Baha’i congregation, and a lay Jewish man to give prayers. But most prayers were delivered by Christians.
Constitution Daily contributor Lyle Denniston explained how the Town of Greece decision could mark a significant change of course for the Court.
“This case really illustrates what the doctrine of separation lost when Justice Sandra Day O’Connor retired, because Justice O’Connor was really the architect of the theory of endorsement,” said Denniston.
“For her, the wall of separation required the government to stay really neutral. And if the government took action, that gave to the reasonable observer the impression that the government was endorsing  a particular faith practice, or a particular faith belief, that violated the First Amendment,” he said.
“The argument now that is being made and is being made very strenuously in the brief for the Town Of Greece by their lawyers is that Court needs now to go fully towards embracing Justice Kennedy’s argument, which is that it does not violate the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause unless the government coerces someone into a belief that’s alien to their own religious or non-religious point of views.”
“The Town of Greece case, I think, will really be a major test of whether or not … there is a majority [of Justices] in favor of embracing the coercion test. And I will tell you this, as any litigating lawyer in this field will tell you, it’s going to be a lot harder to prove coercion than endorsement.”
Chemerinsky, from the University of California, Irvine School of Law, said for decades the Court took the view that the Establishment Clause recognized a wall between church and state, but today’s more conservative Court may decide that the government only violates the Establishment clause to literally establish a church or to coerce religious participation.
“I think there are now likely five votes on the Supreme Court to take this so-called ‘accommodationist’ position, five votes to overrule decades of jurisprudence,” he said.
“I think Roberts, Scalia, Kennedy, Thomas and Alito all reject the notion of a wall separating church and state, and all take the view that the government violates the Establishment Clause only when it establishes a church or coerces religious participation.”
“We likely could see this in the coming term in Town of Greece v. Galloway,” he said. “What we are going to see in this case is conservatives will get five votes on the Court to finally and formally adopt the position that the government only violates the Establishment Clause only to literally establish a church or coerce religious participation. If that happens, little will be left of the Establishment Clause. The wall that separates church and state really will be obliterated.”
Lawrence, the president of Brandeis University, said the failure to recognize the separation of church and state could be bad for religious groups as well when it comes to policy decisions.
“There’s a reason for not having the 10 Commandments at a court house,“  Lawrence said. “It is bad precedent for religious groups to be having their message engaged as part of the state message. …  Exactly which version of the 10 Commandments would you want in a court house? It turns out there’s more than one and there’s more than two. So maybe the better part of valor for all of us is, not ironically in spite of being people of faith, but particularly because we are people of faith, that this is a bad role for religion and not just for the state.”
Denniston said what the other panelists expressed about the importance of the Town of Greece case.
“That’s a case to really watch. It will probably be argued, I would bet, in the December sitting,” he said, based on the Court’s current case load.
Scott Bomboy is the editor-in-chief of the National Constitution Center.

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GJ - The "wall of separation" comes from the apostate Thomas Jefferson promising the Southern states that the federal government would not interfere with their management of religion.

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists

To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen
The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.
Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

Because many people are ignorant of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they are led to believe that the "wall of separation" language is in our founding documents instead of a formal letter. Moreover, it has been interpreted recently (in the last 50 years) to mean that no religion is allowed by the federal government, the exact opposite of the intent of the letter, which was to re-assure a religious minority. Many were worried that the rationalist Jefferson would impose his convictions on the country or the individual states. He said it was not the business of the federal government to do that.

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Michigander wrote:

The folks who advocate that govermment property must display elements of all religions could lose out if the prophets in the story turn out to be right.  The Establishment Clause has been over-interpreted for decades.  I think it is time that stopped.  The question remains, what will develop if such a decision actually is made?  The ACLU and the atheists won't know what to do...for a month or two. 

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