How Is That Possible? Recovering the Chasuble? So Improbable!

David Becker did the impossible - getting me to read about chasubles.

First, I caught the angry letter from Paul Webber, Jay Webber's son, denouncing Becker for writing about his father's interest in this Facebook page -



Recovering the Chasuble Among Lutheran Pastors - Public Group

• Members 317
• Admins 2

David Jay Webber Add Friend Pastor at Redeemer Lutheran Church of Scottsdale Joined about 7 years ago

Jack Whritenour Add Friend Pastor at Evangelical Lutheran Church of Christ Joined about 6 years ago

Jay Webber, perpetual peddler of UOJ, is an administrator of the page. So is an ELCA pastor (maybe previously ELCA pastor) Jack Whitenour (sic). His name is Jack Writenour on Facebook and later in the Becker article.

Is Your Chasuble-Wearing Pastor Married to a Man? 
Christian News, September 26, 2016 issue
From David Becker Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:29 pm

In reviewing what I have written about the "Recovering the Chasuble Among Lutheran Pastors" Facebook page, I accurately reported that Pastor David Jay Webber of the Evangelical Lutheran Synod and Jack Whitenour (sic) are the administrators of the web site.

I reported that Whritenour was with the ELCA but he is no longer listed as on the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America web site.

I accurately reported that same-sex married ELCA clergy have participated in "Recovering the Chasuble." ELCA Bishop R. Guy Erwin, married to a man, featured his chasuble on "Recovering the Chasuble." The photo is still there.

My view is that this is unacceptable. The chasuble did nothing for R. Guy Erwin or for anyone who saw the photo. The chasuble actually harmed R. Guy in that it presented him as a Christian while God's Word says that he is in a state where he will not inherit the kingdom of God. There is much promotion of ELCA and the Episcopal Church on "Recovering the Chasuble," two groups where fundamental doctrines are frequently denied, and where unrepentant homosexuality is common. Both have female bishops/pastors.
There are photos of women wearing chasubles on the "Recovering the Chasuble" Facebook page. Keep in mind that "Recovering the Chasuble" is not a neutral site. It advocates for an agenda, speaking of "the devastation of Pietism."

"Unfortunately, what many think of as 'old Lutheran' is really the black robe of the Pietists borrowed from the Calvinists." Criticisms of the so-called pietists may be warranted in some limited cases, but "Recovering the Chasuble" presents those who oppose chasubles as the big dummies who don't understand anything about genuine Lutheranism.

The chasuble wearer may or may not be married to a man. Pastor Paul Webber complains that "Mr. Becker slanders my father, Rev. David Jay Webber, implying that his being an administrator of a facebook group devoted to liturgical vestments is something for which he will, someday, have to give answer to Christ."

How is it slander to say that Pastor David J. W. will have to answer to Christ for how he administers that page? We will all appear before the Lord on judgment day. Pastors/teachers will be judged more strictly. A shockingly bad statement by Paul Webber that compounded the sins. It may be possible to advocate for chasubles in an acceptable way, but the "Recovering the Chasuble Among Lutheran Pastors" Facebook page does not come close to doing that. It is a very shameful and Satanic web site as it currently stands in my opinion.