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| Women's ordination in WELS and LCMS? Both recognized ELCA's ordained and rostered women long ago, so get over it. |
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| John Lawrenz gave a "sermon" long ago - how everything had to change. Like Stan Olson of the shrinking ELCA, he got the change he was seeking. |
