LPC has left a new comment on your post "I Wish Luther Preached on John 3:16. All the UOJ S...":
This indeed repudiates objective justification.
For Luther as well as with the JBFA anti-UOJers, the object of faith is Christ, His work and person.
On the other hand, the object of faith by UOJers is the justification that was already declared; they imagine this to have already been done for all the people of the world, be they believe it or not (ala Ripley's).
The two groups do not have the same object of faith, Luther and the JBFA agree in one thing, the object of faith is Christ - His person and work, not the imagined justification that already transpired 2000 years ago.
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Joel Lillo-of-the-Valley has left a new comment on your post "I Wish Luther Preached on John 3:16. All the UOJ S...":
LPC,
Your argument is a distinction without a difference.
The object of my faith is Jesus--who he is, what he did, and the perfect payment for sin that his life and work accomplished. I've always thought that the pro UOJ side and the anti UOJ side are a lot closer in teaching than either side is willing to admit. I think it's the whole German "I've got to be right und you've got to be wrong" thing.
All in all, it's pretty worthless argument to get into. I'm just going to keep on preaching law and gospel and proclaiming Jesus as the author and finisher of my faith and salvation. I'll leave the nitpickers to continue to exclude each other from heaven.
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GJ - Reu pointed out that one trick of the unionist is to claim that two sides are actually closer than most people realize. A popular example is the homoouisios controversy in the Early Church. "The difference is simply the iota, the smallest letter in Greek." In fact, the difference was between "like substance" and "the same substance."
My car is like a Lincoln Town Car limousine - or -
My care is a Lincoln Town Car limousine.
Quite a difference exists between the two descriptions. Chocolate is chocolate, while carob (which the Prodigal ate with the pigs) is like chocolate.
If the argument is worthless, why is Lillo-of-the-Valley arguing it again. He joined farces with Tim Glende to protect Lutherans against justification by faith, screeching about quoting any author not in the Knappian UOJ camp of Walther, Stephan, and Rambach.
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| Reu had some liberal tendencies, but repented of them and wrote about Biblical inerrancy in Luther's thought. The liberals never forgave him for departing from their ranks. His work on catechisms was rewarded with a German honorary doctorate, a great honor indeed for an American professor. |